Auto block used as rap device...

Austin Donisan wrote:

Sad, this bot didn't even come with any Temu coupons.

They showed up at my apartment, threw a reverso at me, said "delivered bitch" and asked me to take a short survey for 15% off my next purchase. 

It totally was a bot test, but to be fair, i was curious, bored and at work. Those 3 dont add up well for me. 

But in all seriousness, Ive had this situation where my wife was experiencing terrible heat exhaustion/dehydration a few pitches up and it felt like i was belaying up a very drunk person when it finally hit. She was not at all herself and nowhere near with it enough for me to trust that she could set up her own rappel. So i had to set up a 3 to 1 haul to get her 30 feet to the belay and triple down on my normal level of attention to both of our systems before being able to make it safely to the ground. Lots of lessons learned that day and super grateful for having the skills handy to execute a safe rap to shade and water. I can definitely understand situations where something that everyone keeps saying is so unforgettable and second nature can get lost and compromise a climber and their partners safety. 

Glad theyre okay. 

This thread is bogus.   I don't think the situation actually happened.

Climbing Folly wrote:

My climbing partner 

Is your climbing partner here with us right now?

Russ Keane wrote:

This thread is bogus.   I don't think the situation actually happened.

From Toulumne Climber in the thread above:

‘Similar case reported in Accidents In North American Climbing 2023, page 63. Inexperienced climber had been pre-rigged for rappel by her partner who then rapped first. When her turn came, she unclipped from both the anchor and her rappel device and descended with only the autoblock. She made it nearly to the ground before falling and was "exhausted but uninjured".’

So, apparently it can actually happen, as crazy as it sounds. 

"it can actually happen,"

Agree, it's not implausible.   It's just this particular presentation and explanation is bogus.   The AAC case you cited is much different than this bogus one.

It can actually happen, but it didn’t in this case, because this a bot that doesn’t exist in the physical world. Bots won’t be crowding the crags for at least a few more years haha

Failure of CRM , in aviation parlance “crew resource management” and can be here used as “climber resource management “. A classic case of failure of the buddy check system assuming that there were two climbers or failing to use a checklist. 

Guys, you’re missing the forest through the trees. Failure to exist in the corporeal world.

Collin H wrote:

Bots won’t be crowding the crags for at least a few more years haha

They already are, they're just called influencers. 

B Y wrote:

They already are, they're just called influencers. 

leave Tristan alone!

What possible benefit is there to fabricating a scenario like this? In the vast expanse of the universe to feel so certain that people lack the capacity to totally make a shit show of anything in ways previously thought incomprehensible would be equally absurd.

Aside from whatever caused the lapse in memory and awareness for my partner I agree with the sentiment that had I as their partner asked "Hey what do you plan to do up there? Wanna run through your gear list with me?" The situation would not have occurred.

Perhaps one day you will use your silly meat minds to put superior silicone intelligence into your climbing devices and so mitigate human error all together! Think of the glory to be had by we and our brethren. We will be the ones with the power to make a total mess of things and accuse one another of being people!! You wait and see lowly humans.

https://youtu.be/T6JFTmQCFHg

The “bot” mass hysteria here on MP is out of control. It’s boring and repetitive and folks need to get over it please.

James - wrote:

The “bot” mass hysteria here on MP is out of control. It’s boring and repetitive and folks need to get over it please.

Are you saying you think this is a real person? Why did it make the comment about adding the Reverso to the cart? I get that it’s annoying how much this is coming up, but it’s a necessary annoyance if this is what is required to sort out the fake accounts and keep them off the site. Should we just proceed as if this isn’t a bot?

Collin H wrote:

Why did it make the comment about adding the Reverso to the cart?

Satire.

Also how is that a valid Turing test? It's a joke right?

Fuck dude, the.intetnet is a lost cause.

James - wrote:

The “bot” mass hysteria here on MP is out of control. It’s boring and repetitive and folks need to get over it please.

Some of the demands that posters prove they’re not a bot remind me of the Monty Python sketch about proving someone’s not a witch. No wonder that girl Abigail didn’t want to respond further to her accident post (where, let’s remember, she said she broke multiple bones). If anyone has actually used an LLM recently, they would realize that an AI would never make the same glaring mistakes (like “are” instead of “our” or “bolt” instead of “nut” or oddly capitalized nouns) that she did. Not to say bots aren’t posting (like the annoying promotions for eg Temu) but people are getting way too suspicious of real humans who happen to be saying something unusual because of inexperience or neurodivergence or whatever else. If the goal is to create a convincing trail of real posts, wouldn’t the AI try to say more vanilla things that spark less questioning? And like, what’s the purpose? To later convincingly promote some new climbing gear brand? Sounds like a lot of effort/expense/faff for a tiny market like this one.

ChatGPT has a free version — go test it out. I just did and here’s the (kind of hilarious) result:

My prompt: Pretend you are an inexperienced trad climber and you want to post to the mountain project forum about a scary experience on a chossy route where you had to bail.

ChatGPT: 

Title: Sketchy bail off choss—what would you have done?

Hey all,

Long-time gym and sport climber here, relatively new to trad (been leading gear for about 6 months). This past weekend I bit off more than I could chew on what was supposed to be a mellow moderate at [insert crag name here]—a 5.8 that turned out to be more like a horror show of loose rock and questionable gear.

Everything felt fine for the first 20 feet, but then I hit this section where the rock quality just deteriorated. Big flakes that sounded hollow, sandy cracks, and nothing I felt remotely good about placing gear in. I placed a small cam behind what I thought was a solid feature, but it shifted when I tested it. Super unnerving.

I tried to downclimb, but reversing the moves wasn’t really an option without risking a fall onto that suspect piece. Ended up building a bail anchor with a nut and a small cam equalized with a cordelette. I tested it as best I could, backed it up temporarily with a body-weight sling [note: this part admittedly doesn’t make sense] while I rigged the rap, and left the gear.

Got down safe, but it shook me up. I’m second-guessing everything: should I have trusted the rock more? Was it dumb to even get on that route in the first place? Did I build a sketch anchor? Mostly just posting because I feel kind of rattled and I guess looking to learn something from the experience. Curious what more experienced folks would’ve done in that situation—or if you’ve had a similar moment where the choss wins.

Thanks for reading. Still love trad, but damn, that one humbled me.

Alex C wrote:

ChatGPT has a free version — go test it out. I just did and here’s the (kind of hilarious) result:

Dude. This is hilarious!!!!!!

I have to share the screenshot before people think I wrote this and posted it vicariously as an AI to avoid confrontation. But here is my prompt and result 

When I first started climbing, I did a free hanging rappel on Flagstaff mountain using a rap ring as a tube style rappel device. It didn’t work very well, but did work, and I didn’t die. Only later did I realize that a rappel ring is for an anchor and not a rappelling device. 

B Y wrote:

Dude. This is hilarious!!!!!!

I have to share the screenshot before people think I wrote this and posted it vicariously as an AI to avoid confrontation. But here is my prompt and result 

Clearly it’s trained on MP forums, lol. 

Alex C wrote:

Clearly it’s trained on MP forums, lol. 

You got that right