Auto block used as rap device...

Austin Donisanwrote:

Sad, this bot didn't even come with any Temu coupons.

They showed up at my apartment, threw a reverso at me, said "delivered bitch" and asked me to take a short survey for 15% off my next purchase. 

It totally was a bot test, but to be fair, i was curious, bored and at work. Those 3 dont add up well for me. 

But in all seriousness, Ive had this situation where my wife was experiencing terrible heat exhaustion/dehydration a few pitches up and it felt like i was belaying up a very drunk person when it finally hit. She was not at all herself and nowhere near with it enough for me to trust that she could set up her own rappel. So i had to set up a 3 to 1 haul to get her 30 feet to the belay and triple down on my normal level of attention to both of our systems before being able to make it safely to the ground. Lots of lessons learned that day and super grateful for having the skills handy to execute a safe rap to shade and water. I can definitely understand situations where something that everyone keeps saying is so unforgettable and second nature can get lost and compromise a climber and their partners safety. 

Glad theyre okay. 

This thread is bogus.   I don't think the situation actually happened.

Climbing Follywrote:

My climbing partner 

Is your climbing partner here with us right now?

Russ Keanewrote:

This thread is bogus.   I don't think the situation actually happened.

From Toulumne Climber in the thread above:

‘Similar case reported in Accidents In North American Climbing 2023, page 63. Inexperienced climber had been pre-rigged for rappel by her partner who then rapped first. When her turn came, she unclipped from both the anchor and her rappel device and descended with only the autoblock. She made it nearly to the ground before falling and was "exhausted but uninjured".’

So, apparently it can actually happen, as crazy as it sounds. 

"it can actually happen,"

Agree, it's not implausible.   It's just this particular presentation and explanation is bogus.   The AAC case you cited is much different than this bogus one.

It can actually happen, but it didn’t in this case, because this a bot that doesn’t exist in the physical world. Bots won’t be crowding the crags for at least a few more years haha

Failure of CRM , in aviation parlance “crew resource management” and can be here used as “climber resource management “. A classic case of failure of the buddy check system assuming that there were two climbers or failing to use a checklist. 

Guys, you’re missing the forest through the trees. Failure to exist in the corporeal world.

Collin Hwrote:

Bots won’t be crowding the crags for at least a few more years haha

They already are, they're just called influencers. 

B Ywrote:

They already are, they're just called influencers. 

leave Tristan alone!

What possible benefit is there to fabricating a scenario like this? In the vast expanse of the universe to feel so certain that people lack the capacity to totally make a shit show of anything in ways previously thought incomprehensible would be equally absurd.

Aside from whatever caused the lapse in memory and awareness for my partner I agree with the sentiment that had I as their partner asked "Hey what do you plan to do up there? Wanna run through your gear list with me?" The situation would not have occurred.

Perhaps one day you will use your silly meat minds to put superior silicone intelligence into your climbing devices and so mitigate human error all together! Think of the glory to be had by we and our brethren. We will be the ones with the power to make a total mess of things and accuse one another of being people!! You wait and see lowly humans.

https://youtu.be/T6JFTmQCFHg

The “bot” mass hysteria here on MP is out of control. It’s boring and repetitive and folks need to get over it please.

James -wrote:

The “bot” mass hysteria here on MP is out of control. It’s boring and repetitive and folks need to get over it please.

Are you saying you think this is a real person? Why did it make the comment about adding the Reverso to the cart? I get that it’s annoying how much this is coming up, but it’s a necessary annoyance if this is what is required to sort out the fake accounts and keep them off the site. Should we just proceed as if this isn’t a bot?

Collin Hwrote:

Why did it make the comment about adding the Reverso to the cart?

Satire.

Also how is that a valid Turing test? It's a joke right?

Fuck dude, the.intetnet is a lost cause.

Alex C wrote:

ChatGPT has a free version — go test it out. I just did and here’s the (kind of hilarious) result:

Dude. This is hilarious!!!!!!

I have to share the screenshot before people think I wrote this and posted it vicariously as an AI to avoid confrontation. But here is my prompt and result 

When I first started climbing, I did a free hanging rappel on Flagstaff mountain using a rap ring as a tube style rappel device. It didn’t work very well, but did work, and I didn’t die. Only later did I realize that a rappel ring is for an anchor and not a rappelling device. 

Alex C wrote:

Clearly it’s trained on MP forums, lol. 

You got that right

Ricky Harlinewrote:

Auto locking rappel devices like the Smart Alpine, Gigajul, and Alpine Up are sweet and solve this problem nicely. Safety of a third hand without the faff. I don't know why such devices aren't more popular and why there isn't more investment from industry in such devices. 

These devices still have failure modes. A standard rap is pretty straightforward.  Often the auto locking devices have unusual failure conditions that one may not be fully aware of until it happens and then it could be too late. I experienced this over the weekend.

Ricky Harlinewrote:

Auto locking rappel devices like the Smart Alpine, Gigajul, and Alpine Up are sweet and solve this problem nicely. Safety of a third hand without the faff. I don't know why such devices aren't more popular and why there isn't more investment from industry in such devices. 

These devices still have failure modes. A standard rap is pretty straightforward.  Often the auto locking devices have unusual failure conditions that one may not be fully aware of until it happens and then it could be too late. I experienced this over the weekend.