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Hot Takes 2024

Connor Dobson · · Louisville, CO · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 269
B Maxwrote:

You sound like someone who calls themselves a 13a climber if you’ve sent one 13a before in this “tactic”.


New hot take: it’s not stealthy. Everyone knows you are in there, it’s not fooling anybody, and if you think it is, you’re just naive. 

Real climbers sleep under a boulder braj

Hot take: "hard" aid ethics don't make sense. In aid climbing your goal is to make it to the top, but you specifically don't use good techniques to make it more dangerous and slower. 

Eric Marx · · LI, NY · Joined Nov 2018 · Points: 67

Connor is right, this is just good projecting tactics. I spend an inordinate amount of time TRing because I mostly do trad climbing, and this is kind of the sport-equivalent of that tactic. It depends how utterly desperate the person seems tho. If you haven’t done this you might not be trying hard enough or just not want to, which is okay too.

Hot take: if you don’t stick clip up a proj you stink at climbing

Redacted Redactberg · · "a world travella" · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 27
curt86irocwrote:

Taking your shirt off in the gym is dumb. It doesn’t make you climb better, it just makes you look like a douche.

I’m a bit surprised by this. I don’t use chalk, but for those who do, I imagine others who get real sweaty finger would prefer if their body had less inhibition for heat exchange so as to minimize sweat from fingers.

Jake Jones · · Richmond, VA · Joined Jun 2021 · Points: 170

Epstein didn't kill himself.

There are fewer 5.13 climbers that wear their chalk bags on carabiners than people that know what really happened to Epstein.

mountainhick · · Black Hawk, Franktown, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 120

Getting so absorbed in climbing speak that you start calling every challenge in life like what to have for breakfast a "crux".

Tal M · · Denver, CO · Joined Dec 2018 · Points: 6,462
mountainhickwrote:

Getting so absorbed in climbing speak that you start calling every challenge in life like what to have for breakfast a "crux".

Corporate America loves saying “the crux of the issue” despite not being climbers (edit: as in, “crux” is not a climbing specific term). Now excuse me while I go sixth class this presentation until it’s splitter

Sep M · · Coal Creek, CO · Joined Apr 2019 · Points: 0
Tal Mwrote:

Corporate America loves saying “the crux of the issue” despite not being climbers. Now excuse me while I go sixth class this presentation until it’s splitter

I’m pretty sure “crux” predates climbing.

But what do I know. We were looking at houses and I mentioned a solidly built one looked “bomber.” Our realtor started telling us how well they thought various houses would fare in a nuclear apocalypse like I was some kind of prepper nut. I was pretty sure “bomber” was common parlance too, but apparently I was wrong.

Shane F · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2014 · Points: 1
Sep Mwrote:

I’m pretty sure “crux” predates climbing.

But what do I know. We were looking at houses and I mentioned a solidly built one looked “bomber.” Our realtor started telling us how well they thought various houses would fare in a nuclear apocalypse like I was some kind of prepper nut. I was pretty sure “bomber” was common parlance too, but apparently I was wrong.

Yep, from Merriam-Webster, "In Latin, crux referred literally to an instrument of torture, often a cross or stake, and figuratively to the torture and misery inflicted by means of such an instrument. Crux eventually developed the sense of "a puzzling or difficult problem"; that was the first meaning that was used when the word entered English in the early 18th century. Later, in the late 19th century, crux began to be used more specifically to refer to an essential point of a legal case that required resolution before the case as a whole could be resolved. Today, the verdict on crux is that it can be used to refer to any important part of a problem or argument, inside or outside of the courtroom." 

F r i t z · · North Mitten · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 1,190
Sep Mwrote:

But what do I know. We were looking at houses and I mentioned a solidly built one looked “bomber.” Our realtor started telling us how well they thought various houses would fare in a nuclear apocalypse like I was some kind of prepper nut. I was pretty sure “bomber” was common parlance too, but apparently I was wrong.

This made me chuckle, and merely liking the post felt insufficient for conveying my appreciation.

 Thank you, and best of luck with routefinding on the housing quest.

John Clark · · Board, Garage, House · Joined Dec 2022 · Points: 0
curt86irocwrote:

Taking your shirt off in the gym is dumb. It doesn’t make you climb better, it just makes you look like a douche.



Your metabolism must be slow, because I sweat like a pig and taking my shirt off does in fact make me less warm and this my hands sweat less. Shocking, I know, evaporative cooling aided by increased exposed surface area. Now, if you take your shirt off while not actually climbing much or hard, then yeah, bit bro-y. I usually put my shirt back on if I am cooling off and not sweating anymore

Chad Miller · · Grand Junction, CO · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 150
Marc801 Cwrote:

Because we're talking about a climbing context?

On this site?  No we are most certainty not.    

curt86iroc · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 274
John Clarkwrote:

Your metabolism must be slow, because I sweat like a pig and taking my shirt off does in fact make me less warm and this my hands sweat less. Shocking, I know, evaporative cooling aided by increased exposed surface area. Now, if you take your shirt off while not actually climbing much or hard, then yeah, bit bro-y. I usually put my shirt back on if I am cooling off and not sweating anymore

for a 5 minute burn on a gym route in air conditioning, you'll survive with your shirt on. chalk up and send bro, you'll be fine.

Natalie Blackburn · · Oakland, CA · Joined Aug 2021 · Points: 210

- Being a gumby is okay. Everyone either is or has been a gumby, and doing lots of policing about "gumby this, gumby that" is elitist and dumb

- putting up sparsely protected routes in the modern era is ridiculous, but old runout routes should stay that way for historical value

- whatever your way of climbing is isn't inherently better than how that person over there climbs

- showing off the shitty belay technique you use outdoors when you go to the gym isn't cool, it's just annoying for the staff and a bad example for newbies

- refusing to update your gear or tactics to the modern era isn't a sign of virtue, it's just boring dirtbag behavior

John Bruck · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Nov 2021 · Points: 1

No matter what you do you're annoying someone.

grug g · · SLC · Joined Jul 2022 · Points: 0
Natalie Blackburnwrote:

- putting up sparsely protected routes in the modern era is ridiculous, but old runout routes should stay that way for historical value

- showing off the shitty belay technique you use outdoors when you go to the gym isn't cool, it's just annoying for the staff and a bad example for newbies

1. Why?
2. Not a hot take. 

Logan Peterson · · Santa Fe, NM · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 382

John Clark · · Board, Garage, House · Joined Dec 2022 · Points: 0
curt86irocwrote:

for a 5 minute burn on a gym route in air conditioning, you'll survive with your shirt on. chalk up and send bro, you'll be fine.

Lol, my workouts are more like 40-60 board problems in 2 hours. Not a social climber. Sorry if you get flustered by chest hair and nipples

Chris Wernette · · Ann Arbor, MI · Joined Apr 2022 · Points: 0

Being offended by someone taking their shirt off just means you’re insecure of your own body.

Natalie Blackburn · · Oakland, CA · Joined Aug 2021 · Points: 210
Chris Wernettewrote:

Being offended by someone taking their shirt off just means you’re insecure of your own body.

Or you're part of the half of the population that can't. It's just kinda rude.

Chris Wernette · · Ann Arbor, MI · Joined Apr 2022 · Points: 0
Natalie Blackburnwrote:

Or you're part of the half of the population that can't. It's just kinda rude.

Take it off, I don’t care. If it’s against a gyms policy then they should change it. If there’s some state law against public indecency, they should repeal it.


I don’t see how it makes me rude to take my shirt off, it seems more like it makes you rude to care what I’m wearing or not wearing. #freethenipple

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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