Some climbers and their kids

Mike J wrote:

My twelve year old on some 5.fun routes.

I really nursed this since the day he was born. Always offering but never pushing. Some days we'd go out to climb but end up just watching an anthill and having snacks. Whatever he was psyched for that day. Now he's slowly becoming my favorite climbing partner.

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First time above the clouds.

He really had to dig deep for this one, to deal with the physical exertion and the exposure. We spent the night on the false summit and scrambled down the next day. Back at the trail head he said he felt like a better person from it, like he'd grown, he said. My heart soared.

Very cool. How old was he when you started letting him belay you? I’ve been quietly looking forward to that day.

Joe C wrote:

The pictures in this thread of the kids climbing are cute.  But the normalization of toddlers being brought to crags is awful. It isn't a safe environment for them and nobody wants to deal with your crying baby that can't properly express themselves yet. Becoming a parent. especially of ones who can't walk or talk, requires major lifestyle changes.  Forcing others to deal with an infant when they're trying to have adult fun is not cool. My friend group constantly talks about how annoying it is these famous climbers posting their pack n plays at the base of rock climbs after giving birth.

This thread rocks you party pooper.
What an existence you must live that you felt the need to try and shit on us happy parents and our happy children. Weird ass flex.
Families with humans of all ages have every right to be at the crag despite your asinine opinion.

In the end, it sucks to suck Joe. Raise your kids how you see fit.

Mr Rogers wrote:

This thread rocks you party pooper.
What an existence you must live that you felt the need to try and shit on us happy parents and our happy children. Weird ass flex.
Families with humans of all ages have every right to be at the crag despite your asinine opinion.

In the end, it sucks to suck Joe. Raise your kids how you see fit.

This is not the Mr Rogers my son grew up with....

Joe C wrote:

The pictures in this thread of the kids climbing are cute.  But the normalization of toddlers being brought to crags is awful. It isn't a safe environment for them and nobody wants to deal with your crying baby that can't properly express themselves yet. Becoming a parent. especially of ones who can't walk or talk, requires major lifestyle changes.  Forcing others to deal with an infant when they're trying to have adult fun is not cool. My friend group constantly talks about how annoying it is these famous climbers posting their pack n plays at the base of rock climbs after giving birth.

Leading 5.6 age 8

Top roping 5.10 age 8

love you Max!

Old lady H wrote:

This is not the Mr Rogers my son grew up with....

I guess this is the outcome Joe feared.
I was destined to fill the shoes of Fred Rogers before my parents brought me to the crag.... now more like a cross of Fred Armisen and Fred Kruger.

Sarah Z wrote:

It is so annoying that these little people grow up at the base of a crag and then all of a sudden before you know it they are full blown adults complaining about kids on their lawn. It our job as a civilization to "deal with" other people's crying babies, that way when they run into a 34 year old man child they have the emotional skillset necessary to tell them to sh** in someone else's wheaties.

Seeing as that is not a newborn you posted isn't exactly what I was talking about but deal with other peoples crying babies when you're not in nature is not a part of civilization ya muppet. Climbing isn't required to live. Cute how you instantly go to personal insults because someone doesn't want to be around crying kids out in nature.

Mr Rogers wrote:

This thread rocks you party pooper.
What an existence you must live that you felt the need to try and shit on us happy parents and our happy children. Weird ass flex.
Families with humans of all ages have every right to be at the crag despite your asinine opinion.

In the end, it sucks to suck Joe. Raise your kids how you see fit.

Families who don't care about their infants newborns safety. It is not a flex to disagree with you. My god you all are so sensitive because you refused to change the way you lived after giving birth

Joe C wrote:

Families who don't care about their infants newborns safety. It is not a flex to disagree with you. 

That's an opinion and not a fact, lets get that straight. Families who bring newborn to a crag/outdoors can be just as loving and care about safety as much as any other. Lest you forgot the most dangerous thing you do everyday is hop in a car and I don't see you complaining about infants in cars ya doofus.
The flex is showing up to a forum to pontificate righteousness to a thread that is literally about kids and crags and wondering why your opinion is not landing well. This is not the thread for you, and your not going to change anyones mind.

My god you all are so sensitive because you refused to change the way you lived after giving birth

You're reaching soooooo hard with that statement. I can assure all of us with kids drastically shifted our lives to accommodate our children.

I'll repeat it in case you have some comprehension issues... You can raise your kids how you see fit, how I raise mine is none of your concern.

Joe C wrote:

Seeing as that is not a newborn you posted isn't exactly what I was talking about but deal with other peoples crying babies when you're not in nature is not a part of civilization ya muppet. Climbing isn't required to live. Cute how you instantly go to personal insults because someone doesn't want to be around crying kids out in nature.

I didn’t insult you at all, just implied that any adult who comes onto a thread shit posting about the love of one’s children enjoying nature needs more attention than their mommy gave them. 

Sarah Z wrote:

I didn’t insult you at all, just implied that any adult who comes onto a thread shit posting about the love of one’s children enjoying nature needs more attention than their mommy gave them. 

Don’t you people learn anything from my lessons!?

She doesn’t clean the mussies yet, but getting closer.

Our kids are at the crag or gym five days a week. And now they are starting to do amazing things. Kids should be at the crag because climbing is a family sport. There are lots of ways to do it safely.

Joe Evermore wrote:

Our kids are at the crag or gym five days a week. And now they are starting to do amazing things. Kids should be at the crag because climbing is a family sport. There are lots of ways to do it safely.

Yes, please teach your kids not to trundle rocks. Do a search and read about what happened to Pete Absolon.

Yesssssssss!

Terry E wrote:

Yes, please teach your kids not to trundle rocks. Do a search and read about what happened to Pete Absolon.

Thanks Terry. That story about Pete is tragic. And to such a great guy.  What an incredible loss. The rock that I let Sam toss off was in a direction that we were sure there were no people a clear line of sight. This is also at the bottom of the tower not the top and it’s away from the ascent trail. This is something that kids constantly ask to do and I almost always say no.

That said I realized that tossing this rock off and also posting the film could encourage others who are less careful than us and so I decided to take down the video and apologized to a few of the people that raised some concern. Sam has a following and it’s not a good idea to encourage anyone to do this. Even just the sound of it can be scary to other climbers. So I agree and won’t do this again.

What’s odd is that there are so many bullies out there who jumped at the opportunity to claim that I attempted murder by letting Sam toss a rock off. And then they reposted the video that I took down and apologized for. These people are always mad that my son Sam has a following on Instagram and constantly talk about him. It’s like they are obsessed with him. There are two guys in particular that just constantly gossip about me and my family.

This was not a healthy response from the climbing community. I am greatful to mountain project for taking the slander and gossip down. If anyone sees me or my kids doing something unsafe just send me a direct message on social and I’ll respond quick. If you see anyone else doing something unsafe I’d recommend messaging them directly first. This will make for a way better community at large.

Thanks for taking the time to read all of this.

Joe Evermore wrote:

Thanks Terry. That story about Pete is tragic. And to such a great guy.  What an incredible loss. The rock that I let Sam toss off was in a direction that we were sure there were no people a clear line of sight. This is also at the bottom of the tower not the top and it’s away from the ascent trail. This is something that kids constantly ask to do and I almost always say no.

That said I realized that tossing this rock off and also posting the film could encourage others who are less careful than us and so I decided to take down the video and apologized to a few of the people that raised some concern. Sam has a following and it’s not a good idea to encourage anyone to do this. Even just the sound of it can be scary to other climbers. So I agree and won’t do this again.

What’s odd is that there are so many bullies out there who jumped at the opportunity to claim that I attempted murder by letting Sam toss a rock off. And then they reposted the video that I took down and apologized for. These people are always mad that my son Sam has a following on Instagram and constantly talk about him. It’s like they are obsessed with him. There are two guys in particular that just constantly gossip about me and my family.

This was not a healthy response from the climbing community. I am greatful to mountain project for taking the slander and gossip down. If anyone sees me or my kids doing something unsafe just send me a direct message on social and I’ll respond quick. If you see anyone else doing something unsafe I’d recommend messaging them directly first. This will make for a way better community at large.

Thanks for taking the time to read all of this.

These MPrs are sensitive bunch.

Post more kid pics in this thread please Joe.