Dogs that bite

I was at Mountain Rose yesterday and a woman w two dogs was climbing close by.  Her dog bit me whole I was packing my gear.  She said she was sorry but continued to climb and not remove the two dogs that were Healers.  If you have an unfriendly dog.  Leave it home.  This woman said her dogs never acted like this.  BS.  If you dog should not be around people don't bring them. You know who they are. THE BITE REALLY SWELLED UP LAST NIGHT.  SOME SAY I SHOULD SUE.  I probably won't but I hope this brings awareness to these Selfish people who thing their dogs are special.  Many times people.  Climbers and dogs don't mix.  Wake up 

That’s super shitty, but what are you hoping to gain by starting another thread about dogs on mountainproject?

Can you post some pics of the bite/swelling out of curiosity? Ppl never seem to post pics of the injuries they sustain from crag dogs. Jbtw it's state law some places to put a dog in quarantine if the bite breaks skin for rabies observation. Were they herding you or what? 

I like dogs at the crag/anywhere but you're right if they are liable to bite people for no apparent reason best they stay home.

Kenny Parkerwrote:

I was at Mountain Rose yesterday and a woman w two dogs was climbing close by.  Her dog bit me whole I was packing my gear.  She said she was sorry but continued to climb and not remove the two dogs that were Healers.  If you have an unfriendly dog.  Leave it home.  This woman said her dogs never acted like this.  BS.  If you dog should not be around people don't bring them. You know who they are. THE BITE REALLY SWELLED UP LAST NIGHT.  SOME SAY I SHOULD SUE.  I probably won't but I hope this brings awareness to these Selfish people who thing their dogs are special.  Many times people.  Climbers and dogs don't mix.  Wake up 

  

You have to show dogs you are alpha, what was your behavior leading up to the bite? Be very specific.

Nic Gravleywrote:

That’s super shitty, but what are you hoping to gain by starting another thread about dogs on mountainproject?

Hate to say it but Nic's right. If you really want to effect change, even if it's only for that 1 woman, go ahead & sue. If you truly have a case, you were bit (unprovoked) & are entitled to damages (hospital bills, pain & suffering, etc...).

As entertaining as MP threads are, it's not the best vehicle for getting things done.

Sorry you were bit. Hope you feel better soon. 

In this day and age with cell phones, I would start taking pictures then call county animal control to request an officer show up citing the owner (depending on the location that might involve meeting them at the parking lot).

Jeremy Lwrote:

Hate to say it but Nic's right. If you really want to effect a change, even if it's only for that 1 woman, go ahead & sue. If you truly have a case, you were bit (unprovoked) & are entitled to damages (hospital bills, pain & suffering, etc...).

As entertaining as MP threads are, it's not the best vehicle for getting things done.

Sorry you were bit. Hope you feel better soon. 

My hope is to bring awareness to people w dogs to not bring your dog if it isn't comfortable around people. Its selfish.  And if you don't want your dog at home while you climb....don't go climbing.  I realize that there are more effective ways to help stop this from happening....however I hope this reaches the dogs owner and others.  And BTW....it is not my responsibility to be an Alpha.  In this case I was getting my gear.  

Kenny Parkerwrote:

My hope is to bring awareness to people w dogs to not bring your dog if it isn't comfortable around people. Its selfish.  And if you don't want your dog at home while you climb....don't go climbing.  I realize that there are more effective ways to help stop this from happening....however I hope this reaches the dogs owner and others.  And BTW....it is not my responsibility to be an Alpha.  In this case I was getting my gear.  

So… no pictures?

Kenny Parkerwrote:

My hope is to bring awareness to people w dogs to not bring your dog if it isn't comfortable around people. Its selfish.  And if you don't want your dog at home while you climb....don't go climbing.  I realize that there are more effective ways to help stop this from happening....however I hope this reaches the dogs owner and others.  And BTW....it is not my responsibility to be an Alpha.  In this case I was getting my gear.  

Did you get owners info?  Approximately 20% of all dog bites get infected.  If you didn’t get contact info and need to get treatment, then you are also on the hook for that.  Heal up.

Kenny Parkerwrote:

My hope is to bring awareness to people w dogs to not bring your dog if it isn't comfortable around people. Its selfish.  And if you don't want your dog at home while you climb....don't go climbing.  I realize that there are more effective ways to help stop this from happening....however I hope this reaches the dogs owner and others.  And BTW....it is not my responsibility to be an Alpha.  In this case I was getting my gear.  

That’s what I figured, passive aggressive. Dogs hate that. You have to show up to the crag and own it….or else.

Edit: Works with sport climbers too.

all crag dogs should be hauled ten feet from the ground and left on blank sections of wall until their owners are finished climbing

"if you haul they cannot maul"

Kenny Parker wrote: Climbers and dogs don't mix.

Cyclists cope it much worse and the pros have sustained very serious injuries due to our canine friends being on the loose.

Bad karma if the dog bit you. It's unusual.

It would be a good idea to report to animal control and make sure the dog has been vaccinated against rabies. If they get multiple reports of the same animal biting people they may confiscate the animal.

Please seek medical attention. If you are overdue for a tetanus shot, get one. If a bacterial infection has occurred, it needs medication. Dog bites are serious. 

I’d recommend getting the rabies shots, especially if you don’t have any info on the dog/owner. Chances are the dog probably doesn’t have rabies, but rabies are 100% fatal, once you start showing symptoms it’s too late, there is nothing they can do for you, and it’s a horrible way to go. I was bit by a dog while out for a run a few months ago. I was not going to get the shot until I started reading into it more. You could get rabies from a bite, have it for a few months not even knowing it, and then once symptoms show it’s too late to get help. Again, the chances are slim but it’s not worth dying over, and the shots will give you peace of mind.

I get why you’re posting, it’s frustrating and its bullshit. I got bit while running on a public path, from a dog on a leash. Just lunged at me while I was passing by. The owner swore his dog was good, has never done that before, all that nonsense. It’s bullshit and frustrating when people take their animals into public spaces and then don’t maintain control over them. 

There is no place for aggressive dogs in public, period. This is me holding my nose in place and being admitted to the ER after an unprovoked attack on me and our dog by three off-leash pit bulls at a crag. Our dog ended up in an adjacent animal ER with arguably worse injuries. She did recover and my nose was stitched back on. 

Frank Steinwrote:

There is no place for aggressive dogs in public, period. This is me holding my nose in place and being admitted to the ER after an unprovoked attack on me and our dog by three off-leash pit bulls at a crag. Our dog ended up in an adjacent animal ER with arguably worse injuries. She did recover and my nose was stitched back on. 

Yikes. Anyone pack heat to the crag to deal with such situations?

Jeremy Swrote:

I’d recommend getting the rabies shots, especially if you don’t have any info on the dog/owner. Chances are the dog probably doesn’t have rabies, but rabies are 100% fatal, once you start showing symptoms it’s too late, there is nothing they can do for you, and it’s a horrible way to go. I was bit by a dog while out for a run a few months ago. I was not going to get the shot until I started reading into it more. You could get rabies from a bite, have it for a few months not even knowing it, and then once symptoms show it’s too late to get help. Again, the chances are slim but it’s not worth dying over, and the shots will give you peace of mind.

I get why you’re posting, it’s frustrating and its bullshit. I got bit while running on a public path, from a dog on a leash. Just lunged at me while I was passing by. The owner swore his dog was good, has never done that before, all that nonsense. It’s bullshit and frustrating when people take their animals into public spaces and then don’t maintain control over them. 

Yeah, the virus needs time to work its way from the bite site up to the brain stem. Once it's there, you're fuuuuuuuuuuucked.

There was a good Radiolab about rabies and a treatment that works very, very occasionally.

Seriously, the OP needs to get the rabies shot(s) ASAP.

@ Frank--those look like terrible injuries.  I hope you and your dog healed (or are healing). 

What the hell happens after a case like that?   Were you able to get any contact information for the owner/s?  Was there any responsability/punishment?  Were the dogs destroyed?  

Once the dog bites you, does self defense apply like it would to a human that attacked you? Like could you legally incapacitate the dog?