Dawn Wall attempt?

Wilder Boydenwrote:

I’ve been confused why the Dawn Wall is listed here at .14c, as Tommy and Kevin, in addition to Ondra, both graded the route at .14d. 

Yet in the description there are two 14d pitches. (And aren't there actually 3 or 4 pitches at that grade?)

Tyler Collinswrote:

It's because morons who don't even know where Yosemite is have graded it and MP uses consensus to downgrade or upgrade.

I hope all the pros that select climbs based on mountain project don't get thrown off by the 14c grade. 

Edit: Anyway, I have a more objective way to tell if a climb is soft. I grab my dog. Make him touch the rock. Then through the transitive property if he feels soft, then the rock climb is soft.

I love MP, but idiots who have never been to Yosemite, much less freed the Dawn Wall, get the same vote as Tommy Caldwell and Adam Ondra. Right.

Surprised we haven't seen Ryan Belton, Andrew Shafer, or C D on this thread considering all three have been online within the last day. lol

Fail Fallingwrote:

Surprised we haven't seen Ryan Belton, Andrew Shafer, or C D on this thread considering all three have been online within the last day. lol

I mean, to be fair, 3rd is a hilarious rating. I am a little more respectful of journeyman level climbs, or even really anything that’s not ultra world class ultra elite. The idea the mountain project is any kind of real data repository for 5.13+ and up Bigwalls seems laughable. The grade functions on here are helpful, but clearly not foolproof.

Normally I try not to grade anything unless I have sent on lead, and even then, if it’s above 5.11- I don’t really have enough experience to have any real clue.

In any case, if folks are worried about it, I’ll happily erase, should help the average score bump up to where folks want it to be.

Cole Darbywrote:

I mean, to be fair, 3rd is a hilarious rating. I am a little more respectful of journeyman level climbs, or even really anything that’s not ultra world class ultra elite. The idea the mountain project is any kind of real data repository for 5.13+ and up Bigwalls seems laughable. The grade functions on here are helpful, but clearly not foolproof.

Normally I try not to grade anything unless I have sent on lead, and even then, if it’s above 5.11- I don’t really have enough experience to have any real clue.

In any case, if folks are worried about it, I’ll happily erase, should help the average score bump up to where folks want it to be.

Personally I found the 3rd class rating to be hilarious. Much more so than 5.10a/b

Gonna go ahead and say a downgrade isn't likely...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZSRaLSPant/?utm_medium=share_sheet

Ben Silverwrote:

Gonna go ahead and say a downgrade isn't likely...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZSRaLSPant/?utm_medium=share_sheet

It says that they are back on the wall for a summit push. Does this mean that they are almost done? Did they free all of the hard pitches? Impressive if so, but sounds a little cagey also. 

Frank Steinwrote:

It says that they are back on the wall for a summit push. Does this mean that they are almost done? Did they free all of the hard pitches? Impressive if so, but sounds a little cagey also. 

My understanding is that it is a push to scope out the upper pitches to the summit, not a push to the summit to finish.  

But the last really hard pitch is #16 or 17, right?  Which means that if they freed everything up to that point, then, perhaps not in a push, the third ascent should be in the bag. 

Frank Steinwrote:

But the last really hard pitch is #16 or 17, right?  Which means that if they freed everything up to that point, then, perhaps not in a push, the third ascent should be in the bag. 

I don’t think they have freed everything up to that point but I could be wrong.   I thought they have been working pitches and then will go back for a proper ground up once they think they have a shot. 

“The first stage is almost done; discover the whole route and do all the moves.”

So probably not freed the routes yet?

Another ascent of the route will be awesome. I wish them all the luck and strength necessary.

Fun to follow along, really cool they’ve been providing updates. The post from wino tower yesterday sounded humble and honest. 3 weeks of climbing in the valley on this trip, expected to be better at the style, and got ass kicked on a 13c pitch. Didn’t sound like an imminent downgrade but I guess remains to be seen. Doesn’t seem like Tommy has trouble grading his climbs, but awesome to see others coming in for possibly more consensus and to get more context of what Tommy, KJ, and AO did. These guys are posting pics of pitch’s I had no idea about because of the limitations of what sender could show in their 2 hour movie.

https://youtu.be/6QEKtOJWq0g

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaC9gwep7I0/?utm_medium=copy_link

Sounds like 14+ big walls are hard 

Even if you crush at a world class level 

Looks like the weather turned, gotta be cold up there right now! Snapped a pic this weekend:

Rooting for them - either way it's an epic attempt. Kinda funny how many people are in the valley these few weeks for firefall and probably not noticing these chaps up there doing their thing.

Any update on these guys? 

He posted today that they're taking a few rest weeks to let their minds and skin recover. They'll start working it again in April.

Jackson Chamberswrote:

He posted today that they're taking a few rest weeks to let their minds and skin recover. They'll start working it again in April.

Wow sounds like its not gonna go. That's pretty crazy considering their other sends. Dawn Wall must be pretty sandbagged