A gentle rant: You don't know if you can do it unless you give it a full effort try.

Tradiban this is in poor taste

Tradiban may not always be right, be he is NEVER in doubt!

Tradibanwrote:

Dan, sorry about your sister but as usual the MP mob can only see an issue in a single dimension.

I am not delegitimizing mental health issues, I am criticizing the mental health industry. 

I don't have time to write more and lord knows the Illuminati doesn't want me to, so PM me if you care.

Could you tell us what you know about Alzheimer's, dementia, and Parkinson's disease? Do you have a definition for the term you used, mental health industry? 

By the way, do you own or do you have access to a table saw?  

Therefore, dogmatism isn’t warranted, not even the dogmatic dismissal of the role that could be played by willpower. 

This is priceless. Stilted, turgid, and illogical in one sentence. What a finale!

Giving it a full effort makes my arthritis flare up, I just want to climb some 5.8 and drink a beer in nature bruh

This thread is really shit and should've been locked after post #1.

Daniel Chode Riderwrote:

This thread is really shit and should've been locked after post #1.

David Kwrote:

I hear this all the time: "I know I can do it. It's just that _______."

To that I say: bullshit. If you can do it, prove it by doing it. Talk is cheap. What the excuse is, literally doesn't matter. There's not an excuse that makes this anything other that posturing. I've been on climbs that I thought I would get in a few minutes, that took me months to get. Don't do this to yourself. Believing you can do something you can't do, prevents you from working on it and gaining real ability. Ego will hold you back.

I also hear this: "I can't do it!"

Again: bullshit. This is a little less annoying because it's not as much an ego thing, but it's not any more rational. Did you try it? Did you really try it? I've been on onsights where I've felt the holds, believed in my deepest heart that there was no way I could pull the moves... and then immediately pulled the moves. Believing you can't do something you can do, prevents you from trying it and seeing that you actually can do it. Fear will hold you back.

You don't know what you can do until you really push yourself all the way to the limit of your abilities, and either do it, or don't. Climbing gives us the opportunity to find out what we're really able to do, and what we're really not able to do.

Stop saying you can or can't do things. Not because I say so: do it for yourself. Get right sized about your abilities. Anything else is holding you back.

EDIT: Yes, obviously sometimes backing down is the right choice. I never said otherwise. But if you back down, you don't get to say "I can do that, I just didn't want to risk it", because you don't know if you can do it. And likewise, you don't get to say, "I can't do that, it's too scary", because you don't know if you can do it. The truth is, you don't know if you can do it, because you didn't try. It's sometimes wise not to try, but that doesn't mean you have to make up a story about it.

Bringing it back to the OP.

David has sage advice.

"Canst thou not minister to a mind diseas'd,

Pluck from the memory a rooted sorrow,

Raze out the written troubles of the brain,

And with some sweet oblivious antidote

Cleanse the stuff'd bosom of that perilous stuff

Which weighs upon the heart?"

Some general advice for keeping the stoke:

- Stop chasing grades, start chasing aesthetics.

- If you can't do it and you're frustrated, walk away and come back later or not at all.

- Refuse to do tweaky crap. Injuries are a real downer. With experience you will sense bad moves before you do them.

Tradibanwrote:Some general advice for keeping the stoke:

- Stop chasing grades, start chasing aesthetics.

- If you can't do it and you're frustrated, walk away and come back later or not at all.

- Refuse to do tweaky crap. Injuries are a real downer. With experience you will sense bad moves before you do them.

If we call you out for being an ass in your trolling, we also gotta give the atta-boy when you make a useful post. That'll be a thumbs up from me. More of this, less of the BS please.

JonasMRwrote:

If we call you out for being an ass in your trolling, we also gotta give the atta-boy when you make a useful post. That'll be a thumbs up from me. More of this, less of the BS please.

Thanks but I stand beside my earlier statements. Nowadays "Trolling" on MP is simply saying things people don't like or understand.

Don't bother with the "thumbs up", in a general sense chasing those "likes" is what is depressing people and I have no use for them.

Here are some general tips for happiness:

- Stop trying to please everyone.

- Be yourself, if your "friends" or family don't like it they can take a hike.

- Find what actually makes you unhappy and change it.

Ashortwrote:

I am so confused

Tradibanwrote:

Thanks but I stand beside my earlier statements. Nowadays "Trolling" on MP is simply saying things people don't like or understand.

Oh, wow, sounds like you’ve been cancelled real serious, bro.

Tradibanwrote:

Thanks but I stand beside my earlier statements. Nowadays "Trolling" on MP is simply saying things people don't like or understand.

Don't bother with the "thumbs up", in a general sense chasing those "likes" is what is depressing people and I have no use for them.

Here are some general tips for happiness:

- Stop trying to please everyone.

- Be yourself, if your "friends" or family don't like it they can take a hike.

- Find what actually makes you unhappy and change it.

Have you got a side gig with Hallmark?  How about a poster series - inspirational quotes from Captain Obv... I mean Tradiban?

I enjoyed (my personal understanding of) what the OP was getting after...the idea of taking a problem and putting yourself through the crucible to burn away excuses...a rock climbing problem...I believe it can be interpreted differently for some of the differing comments--not simply try harder and harder, but try and believe what is possible for yourself (what can you do to improve your chances of success on X problem--not "if you try hard enough, you will succeed on Silence.")  Then take into account those aspects of frustration that are truly out of your control (injury, age, responsibilities, etc...)

I know I could climb harder if I drank a little less beer, but this is within my control.  So if I want to send harder, I am unable to say, "This move is impossible," moreso, "Given my current life choices and decisions, I am unable to complete this move now..." which puts the responsibility back on myself (EXCEPT for conditions, because we all know conditions are make or break! Hahahah).  The trick is to not feel angry at oneself for not accomplishing the objective, but identifying where improvement could be eked out.  And I love the one response of "I haven't done that yet..." vis-a-vis "I can't."  It's definitely helped my climbing switching my thinking into what might be at the barest edge of possible...

And yes, Tradiban's responses were gross, cruel, and uninformed.  But he revels in being some sort of anklebiter or something, so I guess he got what he wants from the exchanges.

Eric Engbergwrote:

Have you got a side gig with Hallmark?  How about a poster series - inspirational quotes from Captain Obv... I mean Tradiban?

I don't believe it is that obvious that living for "likes" and thumbs up is killing the psyche of millions.

Now I have to go give a full effort try on getting as many easy, solid and delightful pitches as possible before the snow comes (even though I know its primetime projecting weather)

I can say for sure my smile is way bigger after a day of 5.7- cruising than it is after projecting one single 12+. Do you.

If you decide that you want to be happy psilocybin may be able to help:

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/psychedelic-treatment-with-psilocybin-relieves-major-depression-study-shows

Tradibanwrote:

If you decide that you want to be happy psilocybin may be able to help:

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/psychedelic-treatment-with-psilocybin-relieves-major-depression-study-shows

Don’t forget LSD 

Tim Stichwrote:

and so forth and so on 

also love this oldie but goodie: