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How to keep marmots out of your stuff??

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Thomas Chapman · · Jackson, WY · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 145

I climbed in RMNP last year, left a bag at the base of the Petite Grepon. Marmots chewed holes in my bag, approach shoes, STOLE my socks, and TORE OPEN my partners wag bag!! Other than taking all gear up the route with you, any ways of keeping these little demons out of your stuff? Hanging it on the wall a pitch up probably wouldn't work, as we saw these buggers scrambling pretty well

Robert Hall · · North Conway, NH · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 28,835

Back in the day (late 60's) a CMH guide "Rudi" used to use 40 grains at about 1200 ft/sec up in Boulder camp ("Bugs"), but I guess that's politically unacceptable these days.

Realistically, I expect some sort of variant on the "Bear Canister", such as some sort of hard plastic box would work. Pain in the ass to get to a high camp, though.

Guy H. · · Fort Collins CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 8,368

Just bring some cord or a hook to hang your stuff.  I have never had a problem.  Watch out for the ravens though, they can open zippers.

Daniel Kay · · Boulder, CO · Joined Sep 2014 · Points: 152

Hang your bags from a tree or a nut in the rock 

Jay Eggleston · · Denver · Joined Feb 2003 · Points: 21,874

Bury your stuff under rocks.

Mitchell Dalton · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 26
Daniel Kaywrote: Hang your bags from a tree or a nut in the rock 

This. There is always some sort of vertical wall. Our bags were fine on the Petit just hanging in a crack on the first pitch. 

Patrik · · Third rock from Sun · Joined Jun 2010 · Points: 30
Jay Egglestonwrote: Bury your stuff under rocks.

Above tree line, I'm voting for this one. You don't need a huge memorial-sized pyramid, just enough so they can't get their vampire-incisors on the items. Often, you can find "holes" between rocks in the alpine, so just shove your stuff down and add a "lid" of rocks on top. These critters are better climbers than weight-lifters, so I think hanging items anywhere near rock surfaces is likely to be less successful (as also observed by OP).

John Byrnes · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 392
Patrikwrote:

Above tree line, I'm voting for this one. You don't need a huge memorial-sized pyramid, just enough so they can't get their vampire-incisors on the items. Often, you can find "holes" between rocks in the alpine, so just shove your stuff down and add a "lid" of rocks on top. These critters are better climbers than weight-lifters, so I think hanging items anywhere near rock surfaces is likely to be less successful (as also observed by OP).

Yup.   I've had success with piling rocks on my stuff, none with hanging it.  Marmots can climb pretty well.    

I've had just about everything that I've sweated on get eaten up in RMNP: shoes, socks and shirts.   They want the salt from the dried sweat.    The photo is at the base of Hallets.

Mike Robinson · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 382

can confirm that they are still hungry for salt this year.  partner's backpack straps were chewed through after a petit lap.  made the hike out interesting.

Em Cos · · Boulder, CO · Joined Apr 2010 · Points: 5

I’ve had success with hanging, but I may have just gotten lucky. Has anyone ever tried packing in a salt lick and putting it nearby? 

Josh Janes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2001 · Points: 10,294
Em Coswrote:Has anyone ever tried packing in a salt lick and putting it nearby? 

How about we try not to teach wild animals to associate people with food?

Philip Magistro · · Bellingham, WA · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 0
Em Coswrote: I’ve had success with hanging, but I may have just gotten lucky. Has anyone ever tried packing in a salt lick and putting it nearby? 

Not really appropriate for a variety of ethical and legal reasons.

Lane Mathis · · Denver, CO · Joined May 2017 · Points: 216

Bring a crossbow. 

Ģnöfudør Ðrænk · · In the vicinity of 43 deg l… · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 2

Tried and true with all animals:

Take one extra large garbage bag that will cover pack.  Place bag over pack and place in storage spot.  Stand upwind of bag.  Spray bag with bear spray.  To recover, simply roll bag inside out and reuse.

30 plus years doing this.  Never a problem.

Dave Hurst · · Anytown USA · Joined Jun 2010 · Points: 5

Little devils will steal cookies like crazy! Be especially concerned if they get up on their hind legs and charge.

dave custer · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 2,958

An Ursack ( ursack.com/) works pretty well against vermin too, though the contents can get masticated through the fabric. Be sure to anchor it so it doesn't get dragged off to a marmot/coatimundi hole. Wire-mesh bags are also an option--for rodents not bears (e.g. rei.com/product/846495/armo…). Both will keep the ravens out.

Thomas Chapman · · Jackson, WY · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 145

Tanks for all the good responses y'all. As the climbs are above treeline, hanging a proper rodent/bear bag isn't really an option. I'll probably be burying my bag in the talus to keep it safe

Maidy Vasquez · · Bishop, CA · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 412

Bring your pet crag-eagle along.

Em Cos · · Boulder, CO · Joined Apr 2010 · Points: 5
Thomas Chapmanwrote: Tanks for all the good responses y'all. As the climbs are above treeline, hanging a proper rodent/bear bag isn't really an option. I'll probably be burying my bag in the talus to keep it safe

Hanging your bag is an option as long as there’s climbable/protectable rock nearby. 

Creed Archibald · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 1,026

When I climbed petit we hung our bags off a stick on top of a boulder. That worked, but I left my shoes at the base and they got chewed to pieces. 

Will Albino · · Idk anymore · Joined Dec 2016 · Points: 5

Spray wasp repellent on your stuff every few hours. 

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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