San Diego County Guidebook?

Anyone have any info on if a new SD county guide book is being made? As far as I know the old ones are all out of print. I did come across a Southern California Climbing by Luke Slater, but the SD section and the areas in general seem super limited. Does anyone have this one, and is it worth buying? I guess at this point I’ve already been to most the climbing spots here and I have been able to find a decent amount of topos elsewhere, but having a comprehensive book would certainly be nice. Any insight here is appreciated.  

Ben E wrote:...I guess at this point I’ve already been to most the climbing spots here ...

That is a bold statement. There are places not listed on MP that are in the SD guide book. There are places that aren’t listed in either but are on the allied climbers of San Diego website and then there are places that aren’t listed in any of these sources. 
The SD guide book is one of my favorites, worth having just for preserving historical beta. Lots of little places to check out. 

I would also like one. Someone on here was giving an older one away recenty(idk which book, I forget) and I asked for it but it was already gone before I asked:/

Everyone knows San Diego is choss.....

Abogado Chris wrote:
That is a bold statement. There are places not listed on MP that are in the SD guide book. There are places that aren’t listed in either but are on the allied climbers of San Diego website and then there are places that aren’t listed in any of these sources. 
The SD guide book is one of my favorites, worth having just for preserving historical beta. Lots of little places to check out.

I guess what I meant was I’ve been to most of the popular developed areas that are on MP. For the “SD Guide Book” are you referring to the ACSD pocket book? or the old Dave Kennedy one? 

If you’re talking about southern CA rock climbing by Tom Slater then I have that one. It definitely includes SD county although I can’t remember how many spots down there are in the book (I’d check for you but I’m traveling rn.) It’s a decent overview guidebook that includes a lot of small crags and works best if you use it in tandem with MP. If there’s somewhere you’re planning on climbing a lot I’d get a more specific guide but just for getting your bearings, road tripping, or smaller crags it does the job. 

I believe the OP was asking about the San Diego County guidebook by Dave Kennedy and Chris Hubbard, which is the one I am talking about anyway. There are a ton of little San Diego crags in there, some are mentioned just by paragraph others have full topos (what passed for topos then anyway). I have one it’s great. If you can find one get it. I would also suggest checking out  http://climbingtoposofsandiego.com/  by Hubbard one of the original authors. 

The Southern California guidebook by Slater is another cool little piece of history, I have one of those as well but the San Diego beta is very limited although some of it almost lost in history.

Both the Southern California and San Diego Guidebooks are out of print. I highly doubt the SD authors are planning a new one anytime, from what I understand there was a bit of controversy around it. 
The pocket guide by ACSD is also cool, very good beta on some of SD’s very best single pitch and multi pitch climbing. I have a PDF copy of that I could send you but I am missing some pages, I think someone up here has a complete version they are willing to share. 
I fucking love guidebooks especially old ones. History is cool, knowledge is power, all your beta belongs to me. 

Bump for more SD climbing info 

The ACSD pocketguide to 3 crags (2010) is avail at   https://www.alliedclimbers.org/

Anonymous Userwrote: The Southern California guidebook by Slater is another cool little piece of history, I have one of those as well but the San Diego beta is very limited although some of it almost lost in history.

Both the Southern California and San Diego Guidebooks are out of print. I highly doubt the SD authors are planning a new one anytime, from what I understand there was a bit of controversy around it. 
The pocket guide by ACSD is also cool, very good beta on some of SD’s very best single pitch and multi pitch climbing. I have a PDF copy of that I could send you but I am missing some pages, I think someone up here has a complete version they are willing to share. 

I fucking love guidebooks especially old ones. History is cool, knowledge is power, all your beta belongs to me. 

I'd love if someone could share a PDF copy.

Jev Kwrote:

I'd love if someone could share a PDF copy.

Assuming you are talking about the ACSD pocket guide, you should probably just spend the $10 to buy it from them.  

https://www.alliedclimbers.org/product/acsd-pocket-climbing-guide/

I would be interested in an updated San Diego County guide. My old book has a cracked spine and I have lost a few pages to the wind. At this point though with so much new development I think separate guides for boulder and ropes would be ideal.

R E Rwrote: I would be interested in an updated San Diego County guide. My old book has a cracked spine and I have lost a few pages to the wind. At this point though with so much new development I think separate guides for boulder and ropes would be ideal.

Yeah I’m really surprised there isn’t one specifically for the greater SD area. I finally picked up the SoCal Guidebook by Slater. It’s super nice to finally have but the info is very limited and often only includes literally 10-20% of the route info for certain crags.

I have been working on a book for years now. Nothing is easy and producing something new and interesting is a major task in a place like San Diego all spread out as it is. Instead of one crag that a person can take a photo of and exploit, there are dozens of venues each with its own user group and specific issues. I am getting close however and may manage to publish for the upcoming winter season but don't hold your breath. I am not doing it to make money, I have a decent job for that, so there is no pressure on me. I am doing it because I like to draw rocks. Over time the drawings pile up and need a home. I am not interested in all my drawings going to some other person like T Slater who reached out to me to publish and exploit. He doesn't even live or climb around here. I don't continue working with people who take my work and change captions on cartoons or change route names to satisfy their own jealousies or take shots at people they don't like. Dave K did these things and I did not appreciate it. In a reactionary move I made a website to clarify how I present my own material. Climbing and everything surrounding it should be fun. I am really enjoying the process of the last several years getting my material updated and improved and adding new stuff. San Diego deserves a new book and it shall have one produced by me. If somebody else does their own book that is great. The more the merrier as far as I am concerned. I think MP has taken the wind out of a lot of people's sails. The sheer difficulty of mapping and knowing what to map and even where these places are is also a problem for budding book makers. This project works for me because I am almost sixty years old and have climbed in all the SD venues and know many of the first ascent climbers and have been recording what people have been doing for years. Nothing can replace that except time and who has that? Covid shutdown gave me a solid month to dig in deep. Without the shutdown time, my book would be years away. Now however I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have my foot on the accelerator. The bugs are bouncing off my wind shield. This project is going down.

Hubbard,

I have always enjoyed the character illustrations in your guides. Looking forward to it.

Hubbardwrote: I have been working on a book for years now. Nothing is easy and producing something new and interesting is a major task in a place like San Diego all spread out as it is. Instead of one crag that a person can take a photo of and exploit, there are dozens of venues each with its own user group and specific issues. I am getting close however and may manage to publish for the upcoming winter season but don't hold your breath. I am not doing it to make money, I have a decent job for that, so there is no pressure on me. I am doing it because I like to draw rocks. Over time the drawings pile up and need a home. I am not interested in all my drawings going to some other person like T Slater who reached out to me to publish and exploit. He doesn't even live or climb around here. I don't continue working with people who take my work and change captions on cartoons or change route names to satisfy their own jealousies or take shots at people they don't like. Dave K did these things and I did not appreciate it. In a reactionary move I made a website to clarify how I present my own material. Climbing and everything surrounding it should be fun. I am really enjoying the process of the last several years getting my material updated and improved and adding new stuff. San Diego deserves a new book and it shall have one produced by me. If somebody else does their own book that is great. The more the merrier as far as I am concerned. I think MP has taken the wind out of a lot of people's sails. The sheer difficulty of mapping and knowing what to map and even where these places are is also a problem for budding book makers. This project works for me because I am almost sixty years old and have climbed in all the SD venues and know many of the first ascent climbers and have been recording what people have been doing for years. Nothing can replace that except time and who has that? Covid shutdown gave me a solid month to dig in deep. Without the shutdown time, my book would be years away. Now however I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have my foot on the accelerator. The bugs are bouncing off my wind shield. This project is going down.

if you don't care about making money, why don't you publish on MP?

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This news makes me excited. I look forward to your book sitting on my shelf. Thank you Hubbard.

Looking forward to your book as well, Hubbard.

My biggest issue right now as a new climber is going to Mission George for example, spending 1 hour looking for the climb that is our level and then figuring out how to traverse to the top to set up a TR. I don't feel too comfortable leading especially there right now. In about 3-4 hours we get a few climbs on two routes usually only. But I guess that's part of the fun and exploration aspect of it. MP just gets you the name and general location and the pics are ehh.