microaggression? or having the overreaction?

Khoi wrote:

Apparently you are not familiar with The Body Issue that ESPN does every year.

ALL the athletes featured are photographed nude.

Here's Chris Sharma and Daila Ojeda from the 2013 issue: http://www.espn.com/espn/photos/gallery/_/id/9428872/image/18/chris-sharma-daila-ojeda-2013-body-issue-bodies-want-espn-magazine#

Yea I had heard about some of the nude climbing stuff but didn't know espn was in the soft porn category too. I don't really pay attention to anything espn does.

climbing friend,

Would this be safE? what if his mighty schlong is caught on the rock?

This thread is disappointingly absent of targets of my male gaze 

Politically Correct Ball wrote:

This thread is disappointingly absent of targets of my male gaze 

This thread is exhausting. I'm going to leave with just a friendly reminder that women are human beings and deserve unconditional love and respect. It's hard being a woman in the 21st century.

I would exhort the men in our community to cherish all women for the things that make them special, not just their external appearance.  I would encourage women to value themselves as beloved, unique and worthy of honor.  

Sisters, you are beautiful not because of what you do or how you look, but because of who you are ....

... fearfully and wonderfully made
the image of an invisible, eternal love
worthy, equal partners on the paths of peace.

Friend, definitely the overreaction. 

Pout-rage, it's the new avocado toast.

Fritz N. wrote:

This thread is exhausting. I'm going to leave with just a friendly reminder that women are human beings and deserve unconditional love and respect. It's hard being a woman in the 21st century.

I would exhort the men in our community to cherish all women for the things that make them special, not just their external appearance.  I would encourage women to value themselves as beloved, unique and worthy of honor.  

Sisters, you are beautiful not because of what you do or how you look, but because of who you are ....

... fearfully and wonderfully made
the image of an invisible, eternal love
worthy, equal partners on the paths of peace.

Compared to what? I am pretty sure being a male or female in the 21st century is a joke compared to a male or female in the 1st century.

Peter Beal wrote:

http://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/page/espnwbodyennis/mountaineer-wounded-warrior-kirstie-ennis-long-road-recovery-body-2017

No booty shorts, but almost no left leg either. Ennis has an interesting story; not sure about the photo though...

Gawd what a gorgeous ass...

espn body issues are the best

ViperScale wrote:

Compared to what? I am pretty sure being a male or female in the 21st century is a joke compared to a male or female in the 1st century.

Betcha nobody of either sex had existential crises in the first century, unless they were actually related to existence and the lack thereof.

While most contemporary Western women don't have to worry about their survival needs, they do have to deal with Loads-o-Fucked-Up-Shit (TM), including but not limited to the following inventions of modernity:

- Sexual double standards (promiscuous women aren't playaz, they're sluts)
- Pressure from an oversexualized culture to look Pretty (let Pretty = unhealthy, unattainable, unrealistic)
- A dating pool rife with man-sized boys who would rather fuck themselves raw while watching anime than invest in loving a human being ( http://fightthenewdrug.org/ )
- Centuries of institutionalized subjugation as second-class citizens, accruing like compound interest.
- Pharmaceutical companies that profit on their anxiety and depression caused by the above (instead bullshitting the still-unproven yet widely-financed idea of "chemical imbalances") then sell them chemicals that exacerbate and perpetrate mental illness.

Don't get me wrong, it's hard being a man in the 21st century as well. Check the suicide rates. Betcha hardly anybody killed themselves in the first century in comparison ... 

^ hot button ENGAGE! :-P Consider me a fourth-wave feminist, because I do think the whole "microaggression" thing is bullshit compared to larger human rights issues. If the author quoted by the OP wants to Get Really Angry about something, perhaps she should consider international sex trafficking, in which prepubescent girls are raped for money. Or radical Islamic cultures who practice female genital mutilation because women who experience sexual pleasure are dangerous, licentious libertines.

Actually, no, on second thought, I recant: hurting someone's feelings on a podcast is a far greater issue indicative of systemic patriarchical violence. 

Fritz N. wrote:

Betcha nobody of either sex had existential crises in the first century, unless they were actually related to existence and the lack thereof.

While most contemporary Western women don't have to worry about their survival needs, they do have to deal with Loads-o-Fucked-Up-Shit (TM), including but not limited to the following inventions of modernity:

- Sexual double standards (promiscuous women aren't playaz, they're sluts)
- Pressure from an oversexualized culture to look Pretty (let Pretty = unhealthy, unattainable, unrealistic)
- A dating pool rife with man-sized boys who would rather fuck themselves raw while watching anime than invest in loving a human being ( http://fightthenewdrug.org/ )
- Centuries of institutionalized subjugation as second-class citizens, accruing like compound interest.
- Pharmaceutical companies that profit on their anxiety and depression caused by the above (instead bullshitting the still-unproven yet widely-financed idea of "chemical imbalances") then sell them chemicals that exacerbate and perpetrate mental illness.

Don't get me wrong, it's hard being a man in the 21st century as well. Check the suicide rates. Betcha hardly anybody killed themselves in the first century in comparison ... 

Having lived for 4 months in Malawi, Africa... you have no clue what you are talking about with modern technology compared to living in a 3rd world country. And even in that 3rd world country is 100x better than 2000 years ago anywhere in the world.

Try living in a dirt floor 50sq ft room for your house with no electricity and having to walk 3 miles every day to get muddy water.

There, that should give you all something else to hate on:-) 

Billcoe wrote:

There, that should give you all something else to hate on:-) 

Yeah whatever I don't care if she had Sadam's balls on toast for breakfast she's yummy...

ViperScale wrote:

Having lived for 4 months in Malawi, Africa... you have no clue what you are talking about with modern technology compared to living in a 3rd world country. And even in that 3rd world country is 100x better than 2000 years ago anywhere in the world.

Try living in a dirt floor 50sq ft room for your house with no electricity and having to walk 3 miles every day to get muddy water.

Do tell me more about my lack of experience in third-world countries.   

Here's a play-by-play of our discussion so far. Correct me if my paraphrases are injurious.
FN: It's hard being a woman in the 21st century.
VS: Not compared to the first century.
FN: Clarification: existential crises. Example: suicide prompted by causes unique to modernity.
VS: Physical hardship is worse than mental hardship.

Ok, let's go there. Physical privation makes life difficult. People experience pain because of it. But how many people in third world countries choose to end their own lives because they live on dirt floors and haul water? You tell me.

I'm trying to make the argument, against an overwhelming tide of red herrings, that it's difficult being a human (especially a woman) in the 21st century because despite almost all physical needs being met, people are driven to auto-map-erasure, a fundamental abnegation of the most primal instinct known to the animal kingdom -- self preservation. 

Now, back to regularly scheduled programming.

It's hard being a woman in the 21st century. Men, I encourage you to respect them for their intrinsic humanity, which last time I checked, encompasses a wee bit more than mammaries and reproductive organs. Women: you deserve better; keep fighting the real injustices out there and maybe someday your daughters will know peace.  

Fritz I want to start off by saying you make an excellent point and worded it eloquently, but you don't climb hard enough for your opinion to matter on this issue.

Ryan M Moore wrote:

Fritz I want to start off by saying you make an excellent point and worded it eloquently, but you don't climb hard enough for your opinion to matter on this issue.

Fritz N. wrote:

...keep fighting the real injustices...someday...will know peace.  

Hehe.

"reinforces rape culture." So telling girls you take them more seriously as athletes if they don't try and show off their looks makes men think about rape, but wearing those clothes doesn't. Yet another young gril who wants to see herself as a victim. 

Fritz N. wrote:

Do tell me more about my lack of experience in third-world countries.   

Here's a play-by-play of our discussion so far. Correct me if my paraphrases are injurious.
FN: It's hard being a woman in the 21st century.
VS: Not compared to the first century.
FN: Clarification: existential crises. Example: suicide prompted by causes unique to modernity.
VS: Physical hardship is worse than mental hardship.

Ok, let's go there. Physical privation makes life difficult. People experience pain because of it. But how many people in third world countries choose to end their own lives because they live on dirt floors and haul water? You tell me.

I'm trying to make the argument, against an overwhelming tide of red herrings, that it's difficult being a human (especially a woman) in the 21st century because despite almost all physical needs being met, people are driven to auto-map-erasure, a fundamental abnegation of the most primal instinct known to the animal kingdom -- self preservation. 

Now, back to regularly scheduled programming.

It's hard being a woman in the 21st century. Men, I encourage you to respect them for their intrinsic humanity, which last time I checked, encompasses a wee bit more than mammaries and reproductive organs. Women: you deserve better; keep fighting the real injustices out there and maybe someday your daughters will know peace.  

Well that is life. When you no longer have to worry about trying to stay alive you find other things to be upset about, I don't have the newest iphone, I can't climb that 5.14d, nooone wants to play with me, I wanted the cheeseburger with bacon and they forgot to put the bacon on it (you ever been to a restaurant and seen someone rage because they messed up the order???).

The fact is modern world people are spoiled and start having mental problems because they are just getting greedy (not to say people back in the day didn't too but alot less rich people but everyone living in the US even homeless people are rich). Go spend some time outside the US / 1st world countries and you will see there is more to life than your wants.