How do you afford your f $%ing Sprinter?

you guys are pole vaulting over mouse turds. the best way to make money is to have a good job.

Kevin DB wrote: What does any of this have to do with climbing hard??

What does climbing hard has anything to do w/ affording a Sprinter? Better personal finance would leave you more money to afford that sweet ride.

slim wrote:you guys are pole vaulting over mouse turds. the best way to make money is to have a good job.

The best way to make (more) money is to start w/ a lot of money. It literally takes little talent or effort. But from now on, I'll just tell people who can't get up something to climb harder, lol.

reboot wrote: The best way to make (more) money is to start w/ a lot of money. It literally takes little talent or effort.

that is true, good point.

“You must live in the present, launch yourself on every wave, find your eternity in each moment. Fools stand on their island of opportunities and look toward another land. There is no other land; there is no other life but this.”
-Henry David Thoreau

"What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our thoughts of tomorrow. Our life is the creation of our mind."
-Buddha

I think I must say, "really?" Sprinters, money and the analysis of investment for to understand how to better to be happy with the being a climber?

Llati Wonki wrote: I think I must say, "really?" Sprinters, money and the analysis of investment for to understand how to better to be happy with the being a climber?

I thought the question was how to afford one. I think we all understand that we'd be happier than not if we could forget the financial crap and just go climb.
Some folks have managed to do that, but very few while living a long-term lifestyle that would make a majority of us happy and while not being a burden on society.

In english I believe to say the word is "pedantic".

I am to believe that the colonel has in mind the better appreciation of the lifestyle of climbing through having the very expensive automoblie. To appreciate climbing, climb. Life always takes care of itself. The productivity of an individual and the money that they then show is, well, a very limiting belief system, no?

But for me to be good to the colonel, I believe it to be clear that his original post is to be sarcastic and poking the fun.

Llati Wonki wrote:In english I believe to say the word is "pedantic". I am to believe that the colonel has in mind the better appreciation of the lifestyle of climbing through having the very expensive automoblie. To appreciate climbing, climb. Life always takes care of itself. The productivity of an individual and the money that they then show is, well, a very limiting belief system, no? But for me to be good to the colonel, I believe it to be clear that his original post is to be sarcastic and poking the fun.

What?

I do to apologize for my so poor english writing.

Hey guys! Whoa, Sprinters huh? Alright! Well, see ya later

I just got back from Ten Sleep. All the f $%ing Sprinters made finding parking a pain in the a$% but there were a lot more camping spots :-) There were at least 25 or 30 vans and they do like to hang together in 2 or 3 van clusters. Next year will be double that.

A good portion of the vans were old vans purchased form business (on some vans the business name was still visible I the paint discoloration) that are worth 5 to 10 k. There were a lot that were brand new ( promasters with temporary registration) and the 90K campers.

If you really want a van you can get a used one. If it will not break in the next 50k miles you will get your money worth.

JulianG wrote:I just got back from Ten Sleep. All the f $%ing Sprinters made finding parking a pain in the a$% but there were a lot more camping spots :-) There were at least 25 or 30 vans and they do like to hang together in 2 or 3 van clusters. Next year will be double that.

last time I went to Indian Creek - Yep - sprinters occupied ~1/3 to 1/2 of all spots in the campground I was in. I forget which one. I don't mind the sprinters - same as a tent to me. Just noting the trend for people to take on the road lifestyle showing up in that particular way. A few years ago, a finished out van was rare, and probably a VW. Now it's a sprinter, and it's common.

The funny thing is, I only make about 20k/year and I get people asking me how I can 'afford' to live out of a van and travel all the time. It's pretty silly. Some people look at me like I'm homeless (which in a way I am) while others look at me like a trust fund hippie. Ha!

Tyler Ragsdale wrote:The funny thing is, I only make about 20k/year and I get people asking me how I can 'afford' to live out of a van and travel all the time. It's pretty silly. Some people look at me like I'm homeless (which in a way I am) while others look at me like a trust fund hippie. Ha!

Some people remain stuck (sometimes happily) in the box that mainstream society feeds them. Others find a different freedom living out of a box.

mountainhick wrote: Some people remain stuck (sometimes happily) in the box that mainstream society feeds them. Others find a different freedom living out of a box.

I am stuck in mainstream =/ Can't afford the 2500$ a month for medicine / required yearly doctor visits so I can get prescription without it. Come on I am a diabetic type 1, I am not going to magically wake up one day without it, I don't care what your degree is in I still know alot more about it than the doctor I have to see every year who isn't a diabetic and doesn't live with the shit daily. /sigh

Really though like if you lost your arm and had to go back to the doctor every year to let you know it still has not regrown and you can get disability.

ViperScale wrote: I am stuck in mainstream =/ Can't afford the 2500$ a month for medicine / required yearly doctor visits so I can get prescription without it. Come on I am a diabetic type 1, I am not going to magically wake up one day without it, I don't care what your degree is in I still know alot more about it than the doctor I have to see every year who isn't a diabetic and doesn't live with the shit daily. /sigh Really though like if you lost your arm and had to go back to the doctor every year to let you know it still has not regrown and you can get disability.

Yeah, bad break for you VS. Sorry to hear that. And I hear you. I had about equal yearly medical expenses in 3 of the last 5 years, but not every year of my life. I am not completely out of the mainstream either, just saying you can choose how to live your life... In your case within your personal medical constraints. My constraints are different, and no doubt my choices are different, but it's not my job to make everyone else understand my choices.. Likewise for Tyler.

Ryan's been living in his van for years just waiting to be able to tell us this.

I'm selling a VW van for 9k OBO. A lot less than a new Sprinter. (I won't cross post in every van thread, just this once.)

mountainproject.com/v/volks…

I ghot my GMC for $1200 and put $800 into it to make it drive-able (tires, a serpentine belt), then another $800 into some other fixes to make it safe (suspension, brakes). So $2800 and I have been fairly happy with it. If I had to live in it, I'd want something else. Specifically, something I could stand straight up in. But for a week at a time, be it climbing or Burning Man, it has been great for the last decade. And not so hard to fathom paying for.