Climbing Mag doesn't pay up ?

Smarty Ports/Shants wrote:Holy Jeezus Kryste on a popsicle stick, I'm gonna call that Lame Sauce, or What's Weak, This Week. How much do they owe you in the first place? Fifty bucks?

Just do what Willis would do and ask your mom for a bigger allowance, and let it go.

Jon Zucco wrote:No one likes getting tacoed while they're with their families.

No one on the Taco has any family. That would imply someone slept with them and children resulted from the profane act.

blake- the issue is that it hasn't been handled privately.. during several communicationc. it's more like " next month" then "next month"

I asked if anyone else has had this problem and i got my answer.. up to 12 months- doesn't that seem a bit much ?

Why would the thread be deleted ? bad publicity ?

Sounds like it fits pretty well... moral of the story, if your concerned about being paid, don't do any work for them unless your pay period is predefined, in writing, in a contract. Must suck to be trying live off writing for Climbing rags.. glad I choose not to pursue that "career."

If it did get past 6 months, and you didn't give a hoot about writing again I'd file a suit in small claims court.

blakeherrington wrote:... some very valid points...

You can always give the publishing company some feedback that if their accounting tempo doesn't change, the magazine, their investment, will start losing ground.
Lots of dirtbag climbers that won't bother with this mag according to your dogma. Not that I'm defending the OP, he's definately out of line.

There's absolutely no reason for payment to take months. "That's the way it is" and "it's accounting, not the magazine" are poor excuses for tardy payments. It's a lousy way to treat your contributors.

Even though there could be repercussions for the OP, and some people disagree, taking it public is one way of dealing with it. It may not produce the payment, but it generates bad PR for the mag. One could argue it generates bad PR for the OP, too, but he's at wit's end.

Imagine if the employees at Climbing were paid the same way. Every few months, but they don't know when.

Or if a subscriber asked, "Can I get your magazine now, and pay you in a few months?" They wouldn't accept that, but that's how they're treating others.

I for one, as a reader, am interested to hear how Climbing Magazine treats their contributors. Since this appears to be wide spread problem I have decided not to renew my subscription. It was marginally worth it in the first place and to see that the actual authors are treated so poorly pushed me over the edge.

It's worth noting there is no fundamental law of physics requiring the existance of a climbing magazine. We are lucky (as a community) that a few masochists have taken it upon themselves to document the history and evolution of our sport.

Sure, the mags have their shortfalls, but if you think of them more as co-ops of climbers volunteering time and effort to provide a community service, they do a pretty damn good job for little pay and even less gratitude.

Monomaniac wrote:It's worth noting there is no fundamental law of physics requiring the existance of a climbing magazine. We are lucky (as a community) that a few masochists have taken it upon themselves to document the history and evolution of our sport. Sure, the mags have their shortfalls, but if you think of them more as co-ops of climbers volunteering time and effort to provide a community service, they do a pretty damn good job for little pay and even less gratitude.

Careful you don't step in any of that bullshit Mono.

Yes, I'm entirely sure that the people who run that worthless rag are completely altruistic in their motivation and only come to work every day to serve the greater good of the climbing "community". Sure they do.

Reginald McChufferton wrote: Careful you don't step in any of that bullshit Mono. Yes, I'm entirely sure that the people who run that worthless rag are completely altruistic in their motivation and only come to work every day to serve the greater good of the climbing "community". Sure they do.

Oh, I can play the sarcasm game, too! Ok, here I go... "I'll bet climbing magazine doesn't pay their contributors because their editors are all buying yachts and gold chains and smoking hash in rolled up benjamins, muthuhfuckah!"

Seriously, there are plenty of professions that people choose for reasons other than money. Writing (even for a shitty alternative sports rag) is one of those.

Yes, but usually working in the bookkeeping section isn't...and any business that consistently works with a slow-to-pay model as a way to regulate or maximize cash flow, has nothing to do with "things besides money."