Drug busts near Indian Creek

Drive slow even on the backroads by the creek and say no to search. Cops are trying to bust climbers going to the creek. Be careful, bail is $$$$$$

Haha ~ That's because they know the CO climbers are bringin in the good stuff (beer)... Scoundrals, I heard this happened before about this same time another year ~

Q. Is it illegal to bring the 3.2+ across the UTborder..?

kirra wrote:Q. Is it illegal to bring the 3.2+ across the UTborder..?

Yep. You have to legally have paid state tax on it first.

Sign in the window of an Evanston Wyoming liquor store: "The Utah Highway Patrol is NOT welcome here."

-Brian in SLC

I was lucky enough to have a run in with the man driving outa the creek 2 years ago. We had lots of beer, but thats not what they were after. They wanted some of that fine colorado ganja.
An eighth of weed = $50
Gas and Food for a week in the Creek = $100
Spending the night in San Juan County Jail = Priceless (or about $1700)

be careful and if you are gonna back the goods, put it in a roof box they didnt search mine!

Know your rights's!!
Do not consent to a search.
Don't believe the B'S they tell you. Tell them to get a warrant and don't admit to anything like speeding.
And lock your door when you get out. If anything is locked ,they need a warrant.

that woulda helped all this advice, but its too late....try a litle bit of grass and some pizzas toppings. 3rd degree felony

Monty wrote:) be careful and if you are gonna back the goods, put it in a roof box they didnt search mine!

I remember reading that if something is in a locked container like a briefcase, box or backpack, something like that, they need a warrant to open it up to search it. I could be wrong about this, but that is probably why they didn't search your roof box.

These small town Utah cops like to hassle people sometimes, it's too bad really, since people visiting the state is good for our economy.

I've been pulled over 3 times during which cops asked to search my car. I said "no" every time. They tried to convince me / scare me every time. I kept saying no and not once did they search the car.

I don't know the details on probable cause, yadda yadda, but always say no when a cop wants to search your car. If they have the right to forcefully do so, they'll let you know.

It sucks to read about cops asking someone "you been smoking marijuana?" and the stoner just hands the cop a bag. Make cops do their job. Don't make it easy for them to arrest you, come on now.

Thankfully there are some Police that enjoy smoking pot too! Year's ago I was arrested for possession of 2 ounce's in Lake Tahoe Ca. In court I was charged for under 1 ounce.
I'm sure they enjoyed that Ca. KGB!

you should be pretty careful in utah and nevada, they both have pretty stiff laws.

dont puff in the car/keep that shit in the trunk!!!!
(I know guys its hard, but worth every FREE moment)

if it stinks real bad put it in a nalgene/while in the trunk.(see they're good for somthing:).. )

very happy travels

jv

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Thanks for the head's up, Ranchhand. That was mighty kind of you. :)

--Marc

I got searched for weed coming out of the Creek back in 1997. Young cop, really had no idea what he was doing. He did a sobriety test on me and flailed really hard. He then accused me of being high based on his poorly applied test (any lab test would have found me clean as a whistle). I think he got more suspicious because of how cooperative I was.

"You show signs of smoking marijuana. Either you smoked it all or your buddies have it back at camp." Haha man I'll never forget that line. What a dick.

Not to be argumentative, but, if the beer has already been taxed in one state, and you are a private party not commercial, then I believe Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution commerce clause would prevent a person from having to pay tax twice on the same transaction. This principal explains why you don't have to pay any tax to travel between States or for everything else involved in regular commerce. Like the gas in the tank, which is heavily taxed at point of sale, tires, etc. Likewise, your AZ drivers license is valid from state to state.

Avoidance on the reefer issue is primary. Once contact is made, you may fool the man but the dogs are almost unbeatable. Various outer layers can be used to mask the smell. Then there's the quicktest which the cops use at every chance here in AZ. Even at the risk of being arrested, my advice is don't use or carry in any jurisdiction not de-crimmed.

Next to water polish stone, I just love this stuff!!

cory wrote:and the whole beer thing, geeze, that is a whole forum in itself!

Sorry to drift but just to finally settle the question: Regardless of "Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3", it seems that it is NOT ok to bring liquor into Utah...): ~ bummer ~

Scroll down to: MAY I BRING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES INTO UTAH ?

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Hi Kirra-

I don't disagree with you based on what the link you provided indicates.

However, here's what Utah law says. Read especially about 1/2 the way down, beginning with (d):

32A-12-212. Unlawful possession -- Exceptions.
(1) A person may not have or possess within this state any liquor unless authorized by this title or the rules of the commission, except that:
(a) a person who clears United States Customs when entering this country may have or possess for personal consumption and not for sale or resale, a maximum of two liters of liquor purchased from without the United States;
(b) a person who moves the person's residence to this state from outside of this state may have or possess for personal consumption and not for sale or resale, any liquor previously purchased outside the state and brought into this state during the move, if:
(i) the person first obtains department approval prior to moving the liquor into the state;
(ii) the department affixes the official state label to the liquor; and
(iii) the person pays the department a reasonable administrative handling fee as determined by the commission;
(c) a person who as a beneficiary inherits as part of an estate liquor that is located outside the state, may have or possess the liquor and transport or cause the liquor to be transported into the state if:
(i) the person first obtains department approval prior to moving the liquor into the state;
(ii) the person provides sufficient documentation to the department to establish the person's legal right to the liquor as a beneficiary;
(iii) the department affixes the official state label to the liquor; and
(iv) the person pays the department a reasonable administrative handling fee as determined by the commission; or
(d) a person may transport, have, or possess liquor if:
(i) the person transports, has, or possesses the liquor:
(A) for personal household use and consumption; and
(B) not for:
(I) sale;
(II) resale;
(III) gifting to another; or
(IV) consumption on a premise licensed by the commission;
(ii) the liquor is purchased from a store or outlet on a military installation; and
(iii) the maximum amount the person transports, has, or possesses under this Subsection (1)(d) is:
(A) two liters of:
(I) spirituous liquor;
(II) wine; or
(III) a combination of spirituous liquor and wine; and
(B) one case of heavy beer that does not exceed 288 ounces.
(2) (a) Approval under Subsection (1)(b) may be obtained by a person who:
(i) is transferring the person's permanent residence to this state; or
(ii) maintains separate residences both in and out of this state.
(b) A person may not obtain approval to transfer liquor under Subsection (1)(b) more than once.

jon vandub wrote:dont puff in the car/keep that shit in the trunk!!!! (I know guys its hard, but worth every FREE moment) if it stinks real bad put it in a nalgene/while in the trunk. jv

And remember all you Outback and SUV owners -- technically, you do NOT have a trunk, if you can reach into that compartment from the passenger compartment. So, all parts of an Outback, SUV, van or other open compartment vehicle are searchable if the officer has reasonable suspicion.

We were stopped just outside moab on I70 once and the cop gave my buddy driving the FST and he passed it. But the cop said he had white spots on his tongue which was a sign of smoking dope. So the cop arrested him and took him to jail on DUI charges. BS for sure.
Its always sketch in that state.
I may be wrong but I also heard that your allowed a case of beer per person when traveling through the state. Any more I guess is intent to distribute or somthing i guess. THat could be hear say.

There are some folks out there who put more faith in our legal system/government (local or otherwise)than they deserve. There are plenty of ridiculous laws out there where otherwise law abiding citizens can find themselves in a world of trouble for just driving through a state with a controlled item, read: Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. These items are regulated differently depending on the state and a local or state officer with a hair across his or her ass could screw you faster than a freshman on prom night. Be careful out there.

I have seen prosecutors misuse the law to the detriment of us common folk. The exception would apply and I believe a person could not be prosecuted successfully.