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By Alma Madsen
From Provo, UT
Jul 8, 2009
About to climb A Rose is a Rose

I have been working on a computer program to help create route guides from photos taken at climbing locations. Currently it is in the beta phase, and anyone willing to help test it out would be greatly appreciated. The program works much like a simplified photo editing program but with tools specifically designed for creating route guides.

The application and more info can be found at: http://sites.google.com/site/mountainprojectpdfs/betacreator

It's both PC and Mac compatible. Any comments or questions can be posted here or sent to betacreator@gmail.com

Edit: New host page here: http://sites.google.com/site/betacreator


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By E. Jolley
From 50000;74000
Jul 8, 2009

Very impressive!


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By Tyson Anderson
From Las Vegas, NV
Jul 8, 2009
yawn

Nice!


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By Tristan Higbee
From Provo, Utah
Jul 8, 2009
Me on a mixed route Crisco and I did in Rock Canyon.

That's incredibly cool! BUMP!!!

(PS, we should go climbing sometime)


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By Alex Dean
Jul 8, 2009
Climbing is not the only way to have fun!

Sweet and user friendly too!


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By Mike Dudley
From Tucson
Jul 9, 2009
Crux of Picante Sauce - Picante Roof

Ill check it out tonight after work!


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By TP in SLC
Jul 9, 2009
The 5.9 handcrack on Center Thumb<br /><br />Photo: Eric Draper 2001

Very nice.


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By Alma Madsen
From Provo, UT
Jul 13, 2009
About to climb A Rose is a Rose

http://www.mountainproject.com/v/general_climbing/greenpeace>>>>>

Perfect!


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By Luke Stefurak
From San Diego, CA
Jul 16, 2009
Below "Inspect Her Gadget" at HP40 after sending it the previous day.

You should add a function to put in circles with numbers inside for belays on multi-pitch routes and blank circles for false/alternate belays.

Also a symbol for a piton would be nice as well as a circle with an arrow pointing down signifying a rap station.

Lastly an undo function would be a plus...

Cheers,

Luke


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By Alma Madsen
From Provo, UT
Jul 17, 2009
About to climb A Rose is a Rose

Version 1.1 (7/17/09)
- Added Piton Tool
- Added Rap/Belay Tool
- Added Loading Screen
- Fixed bug with tool cursor over toolbar

BTW, the program has an auto update feature built in, and as long as you are connected to the internet it will check for the latest version when you start it.


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By Alma Madsen
From Provo, UT
Jul 27, 2009
About to climb A Rose is a Rose

Version 1.2 (7/27/09)
- Added command to change all items to selected color (under edit menu)
- Added command to change all items to selected size (under edit menu)
- Fixed bug that didn't allow jpg quality to be changed
- Fixed bug that didn't allow image adjustment values to be manually entered
- Fixed bug with clearing data layer when loading one from file
- Fixed letters being cut off in the bottom status bar (Win)
- Fixed the instruction sheet so "Keyboard Shortcuts" is visible (Win)
- Application launches centered on screen


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By Joseph P. Crotty
From Westminster, CO
Jul 27, 2009
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Alma,

Nice work. Just gave it a whirl. Few suggestions:

1. Tooltips for the toolbar - a must.
2. Undo tool of some sort ...
3. The final image product post save seems really "compressed". Lots of data loss. Is this just the shoe you have to wear due to the SDK or is there another reason.


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By Alma Madsen
From Provo, UT
Jul 27, 2009
About to climb A Rose is a Rose

Joseph P. Crotty wrote:
1. Tooltips for the toolbar - a must.

Can you expand on what you are looking for here?

Joseph P. Crotty wrote:
2. Undo tool of some sort...

I'm working on this...It's proving to be quite a beast, but I'm sure I'll have it worked out in the next little while.

Joseph P. Crotty wrote:
3. The final image product post save seems really "compressed". Lots of data loss...

The higher the size and quality of the image you load into the program, the better your end results will look. Generally I don't experience much visual quality loss with the jpg quality set to 80 and the size set to 100% (the defaults). You can try setting the jpg quality higher as well.


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By Joseph P. Crotty
From Westminster, CO
Jul 27, 2009
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Tooltip - basically, if I hover over the select tool a small pop up box should say 'Select Tool'. Or the piton tool then it says in the small box 'Piton Tool'. ScreenTips, Tooltips, whatever you want to call them name the tool their mouse is currently over.


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By Alma Madsen
From Provo, UT
Jul 29, 2009
About to climb A Rose is a Rose

Thanks Joseph. I do have something similar in the status bar at the bottom, but I suppose it is much easier to read when it's next to your mouse. I'll certainly implement tooltips in the next release.


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By verticon
Aug 3, 2009

Hi, I've been using your program since version 1.0 and it's really useful: the best tool for the job.
One thing I'd like it to have is a "Close" button. For now, if I want to open another picture, I have to restart the program.
Also, it might be useful to be able to enter a two digit number or letters in the circle for the belay tool. I mean that the belay tool could be just a circle and the user would have to enter his own numbers or letters instead of the actual 1-9 fixed values.

Thank you for this gem,

Laurentiu


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By Jeffrey LeCours
Aug 3, 2009

Nice work. Looks like a fun project to code :]


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By Jeff Welch
From Lakewood, CO
Aug 3, 2009
nap time...

Rad. Excellent work.


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By Drew Gibson
From Frisco, CO
Aug 3, 2009

Looks great, we use a similar system for logging our snow safety routes. Nice work!


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By Alma Madsen
From Provo, UT
Aug 5, 2009
About to climb A Rose is a Rose

First of all, thanks for the feedback from everyone. I've been pretty busy lately so I haven't had time to work on an update, but the feature list is expanding little by little.

verticon wrote:
One thing I'd like it to have is a "Close" button.

Thanks for pointing this out. After thinking about it, I will most likely implement a "new" command that will basically clear everything or reset it like when you first launch the program.

verticon wrote:
Also, it might be useful to be able to enter a two digit number or letters in the circle for the belay tool.

This one will take a bit more work... As a temporary solution (and you may already be doing this) you can place the empty circles where you want them, and go back at the end with a smaller type tool and place the custom label in the rings.


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By Jeff G.
From Fort Collins
Aug 5, 2009
Castle Valley

Hey this is pretty cool! I just used this program to make a topo for "The Barb" on the Spearhead in RMNP. The program was very intuitive and it only took a few minutes to do the whole thing. Thanks Alma.

http://www.mountainproject.com/v/colorado/alpine_rock/rmnp__>>>>>


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By verticon
Aug 6, 2009

Alma Madsen wrote:
This one will take a bit more work... As a temporary solution (and you may already be doing this) you can place the empty circles where you want them, and go back at the end with a smaller type tool and place the custom label in the rings.


You're right, I thought I could type a digit inside the empty circle, but I've just noticed that pressing the "n" key doesn't input a digit, but in fact activates the "n-th belay" tool. Doesn't matter, the text tool will do the job indeed.
Thank you for your work.


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By Luke Stefurak
From San Diego, CA
Aug 6, 2009
Below "Inspect Her Gadget" at HP40 after sending it the previous day.

Great tool for sure.

An addition to the comment above would be to add number/letters to the rap station circle.

Also it would be great to have some type of scroll bars or a way to drag the image around. (Right now it just seems like you have to strategically zoom in and out.)

Thanks!!

- Luke


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By verticon
Aug 6, 2009

Luke Stefurak wrote:
Also it would be great to have some type of scroll bars or a way to drag the image around. (Right now it just seems like you have to strategically zoom in and out.) Thanks!! - Luke


It's in the user guide on the initial screen:
Space-bar + click & drag


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By Alma Madsen
From Provo, UT
Aug 7, 2009
About to climb A Rose is a Rose

Version 1.3 (8/7/09)
- Added 'new' command (under file menu)
- Added tooltips
- Fixed bug with status bar tool descriptions
- Loading new image now resets zoom, location, and defaults to selection tool
- Fixed bug with switching tools while drawing a line


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By verticon
Aug 8, 2009

Great job, thank you !

Edited to add: I've just discovered another bug:
After saving a picture, space-bar+click&drag brings up the save-as dialog again, instead of panning.


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