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A Squirrel, a Mole, and a Chicken S 5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b |
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Blank Check S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a |
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Bourbon By Nine S 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b |
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Closed Project S 5.13+ 8b 30 X- 31 E7 7a |
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Cosmo's Crack Garden S 5.10+ 6b+ 21 VII+ 20 E3 5b |
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Crack Seam S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a |
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Doobies At Dawn S 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b |
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Is it Nihilism or Nihilism? (Guess it Doesn't Matter) S 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b |
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Lodgepole S 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b |
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Meatballs in Space S 5.12+ 7c 28 IX 27 E6 6b |
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Pinche Moscas S 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a |
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Transplant S 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c |
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Weird Science S 5.11a/b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c |
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| Type: | Sport, 50 ft (15 m) |
| GPS: | 39.40677, -106.65365 |
| FA: | unknown |
| Page Views: | 1,404 total · 16/month |
| Shared By: | Jack Danneberg on Jul 24, 2019 |
| Admins: | Alvaro Arnal, Leo Paik, John McNamee, Frances Fierst, Monty, Monomaniac, Tyler KC |
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Access Issue: 2026 Raptor Closure - Endless Wall & Magic Forest - lifted
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8/21/26: per Jessica Ilse: closures lifted.
6/12/26: J. Ilse: “Endless Wall” and “Magic Forest” are closed due to nesting peregrine falcons. See comment & 
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8/7/25:thank you for your support of the closure for nesting peregrine falcons. NF no longer sees falcons. End 8/8/25. - J. Schuller, NFS.
6/18/25: USFS monitored LC for nesting peregrine falcons, & a pair established a nest. The active nest is in the “Endless Wall & Magic Forest areas. They request no climbing.
2023: the nesting peregrine falcons at Lime CC are in full swing & a temporary area closure surrounding the nest until 8/1/23 or rescinded earlier. Info is posted at site. Climbing is not affected at other areas in Lime CC as a result of this temporary closure, incl. @ Endless Wall in the Jellystone & the N end of canyon. Specific to the Endless Wall, the closure begins about 75' R of Fruit of the Linen extends about 2000' up the canyon to a point about 180' N of the overhead powerline.
In 2022: closure ended. Monitoring, a tech saw no falcons/young on the cliffs or nesting area seen earlier. An adult flew around the main canyon & was calling. The young were able to fly, & the family was in the area but not nest-dependent.
In 2022: from P. Nyland - the falcons returned in 2022 to nest in Jellystone, Lime CC. Thus, White River NF closed the area in the attached Forest Order, 6/9-8/1/22.
2 peregrine falcons nested here in 2020 during a similar closure. In 2021, falcons did not nest in this area & a closure ended.
2 were attending a nest. During my last monitoring, both birds were highly agitated until I backed away from the cliff edge. The nest was in a location visible from access & climbing routes at the Endless Wall & Magic Forest. In 2020, climbing was possible @ Endless Wall during the nest & nest-departure phases, but that year the location made the pair & their young reactive & vulnerable to humans.
The closed area includes the cliff faces, cliff tops, routes, & access routes to Magic Forest & Endless Wall. The cliff tops were in the closure, b/c peregrines perched there. Closure info is posted at the start of the access from FR 400. Closure ended Aug. 1.
As of 6/20/21, after speaking with P. Nyland, NF Biologist, the study to date showed no evidence of nesting. As a result, the NF anticipated no raptor nesting closures. If evidence of raptor nesting is found, the situation could change, but for now Lime CC & the nearby areas - open.
The White River NF proposes to establish a 5 yr reg., a “Special Order,” restricting human occupancy surrounding a peregrine falcon nests during the nesting period in Lime CC, Eagle County, Aspen-Sopris Ranger District, potentially from May 15 to July 31 each yr based on nesting.
The proposed Special Order extends a short-term restriction from 6/1-8/1/20 after monitoring showed an active nest for the fourth year from 2016-20, & within the past two years in close proximity to popular climbing routes. The cliffs of Lime CC are unique & have resources needed for local peregrine falcons to nest, lay eggs, & rear young. During this life stage, adults & young peregrine falcons can be disturbed by humans.
Intent: to protect the area of the nest site using science-based peregrine falcon information & monitoring. As possible, the restriction may allow for climbing & other human presence where this does not interfere with local peregrine falcons to nest, lay eggs, & rear young. The area to be restricted would immediately surrounding the nest site & adjusted in location if the birds shift their nest site during the 5 yr restriction period. The proposed Special Order would be lifted on or before Aug. 1, depending on the status of the nest & the peregrine falcons present, & the Special Order would remain in effect until rescinded or until 8/1/25, whichever event occurs first.
How to comment:
You may comment on this proposal by replying to P. Nyland, Wildlife Biologist at 970-404-3156, philip.nyland@usda.gov or J. Schuller, Deputy District Ranger at 970-404-3163, Jennifer.schuller@usda.gov. Please provide comments by 5/24/21.
More info regarding the proposal, rationale, & how to provide your comments - contact the FS.
fs.usda.gov/project/?projec…
Thank you.
Phil Nyland, FS Wildlife Biologist, White River NF, Aspen-Sopris District fs.fed.us
6/12/26: J. Ilse: “Endless Wall” and “Magic Forest” are closed due to nesting peregrine falcons. See comment &
8/7/25:thank you for your support of the closure for nesting peregrine falcons. NF no longer sees falcons. End 8/8/25. - J. Schuller, NFS.
6/18/25: USFS monitored LC for nesting peregrine falcons, & a pair established a nest. The active nest is in the “Endless Wall & Magic Forest areas. They request no climbing.
2023: the nesting peregrine falcons at Lime CC are in full swing & a temporary area closure surrounding the nest until 8/1/23 or rescinded earlier. Info is posted at site. Climbing is not affected at other areas in Lime CC as a result of this temporary closure, incl. @ Endless Wall in the Jellystone & the N end of canyon. Specific to the Endless Wall, the closure begins about 75' R of Fruit of the Linen extends about 2000' up the canyon to a point about 180' N of the overhead powerline.
In 2022: closure ended. Monitoring, a tech saw no falcons/young on the cliffs or nesting area seen earlier. An adult flew around the main canyon & was calling. The young were able to fly, & the family was in the area but not nest-dependent.
In 2022: from P. Nyland - the falcons returned in 2022 to nest in Jellystone, Lime CC. Thus, White River NF closed the area in the attached Forest Order, 6/9-8/1/22.
2 peregrine falcons nested here in 2020 during a similar closure. In 2021, falcons did not nest in this area & a closure ended.
2 were attending a nest. During my last monitoring, both birds were highly agitated until I backed away from the cliff edge. The nest was in a location visible from access & climbing routes at the Endless Wall & Magic Forest. In 2020, climbing was possible @ Endless Wall during the nest & nest-departure phases, but that year the location made the pair & their young reactive & vulnerable to humans.
The closed area includes the cliff faces, cliff tops, routes, & access routes to Magic Forest & Endless Wall. The cliff tops were in the closure, b/c peregrines perched there. Closure info is posted at the start of the access from FR 400. Closure ended Aug. 1.
As of 6/20/21, after speaking with P. Nyland, NF Biologist, the study to date showed no evidence of nesting. As a result, the NF anticipated no raptor nesting closures. If evidence of raptor nesting is found, the situation could change, but for now Lime CC & the nearby areas - open.
The White River NF proposes to establish a 5 yr reg., a “Special Order,” restricting human occupancy surrounding a peregrine falcon nests during the nesting period in Lime CC, Eagle County, Aspen-Sopris Ranger District, potentially from May 15 to July 31 each yr based on nesting.
The proposed Special Order extends a short-term restriction from 6/1-8/1/20 after monitoring showed an active nest for the fourth year from 2016-20, & within the past two years in close proximity to popular climbing routes. The cliffs of Lime CC are unique & have resources needed for local peregrine falcons to nest, lay eggs, & rear young. During this life stage, adults & young peregrine falcons can be disturbed by humans.
Intent: to protect the area of the nest site using science-based peregrine falcon information & monitoring. As possible, the restriction may allow for climbing & other human presence where this does not interfere with local peregrine falcons to nest, lay eggs, & rear young. The area to be restricted would immediately surrounding the nest site & adjusted in location if the birds shift their nest site during the 5 yr restriction period. The proposed Special Order would be lifted on or before Aug. 1, depending on the status of the nest & the peregrine falcons present, & the Special Order would remain in effect until rescinded or until 8/1/25, whichever event occurs first.
How to comment:
You may comment on this proposal by replying to P. Nyland, Wildlife Biologist at 970-404-3156, philip.nyland@usda.gov or J. Schuller, Deputy District Ranger at 970-404-3163, Jennifer.schuller@usda.gov. Please provide comments by 5/24/21.
More info regarding the proposal, rationale, & how to provide your comments - contact the FS.
fs.usda.gov/project/?projec…
Thank you.
Phil Nyland, FS Wildlife Biologist, White River NF, Aspen-Sopris District fs.fed.us
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