Type: Sport, 40 ft (12 m)
FA: unknown
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Shared By: Karl R. Kiser on May 6, 2018
Admins: Jason Halladay, Anthony Stout, LeeAB Brinckerhoff, Marta Reece, Drew Chojnowski

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Access Issue: May 19, 2022 - Cibola National Forest Enters Stage 3 (Full Closure) Status Details


This is a left variation of Same As It Ever Was.  Crux moves are toward the middle of the climb.


Share three bolts with Same As It Ever Was and then continue left past two more bolts.


5 bolts to a shared anchor with Kyle's Crack.