Thoughts on removing bushes from cracks

Do you know how many things get killed to mine the metal and petroleum so we can go recreate? Ripping a non-endangered plant out is the very least damaging thing we’re doing here.

Fine you're in the "good to kill a 100-year old plant" because its "its the least damaging thing you do." 

But it turns out its NOT the least damaging thing you could do. If you, like, left the plant in-situ and didn't kill it at all, THAT would be the least damage you could do. But if your route is so amazing the death of a 100 year old plant is required, well, that must be some route.

Cherokee Nunes wrote:

Fine you're in the "good to kill a 100-year old plant" because its "its the least damaging thing you do." 

But it turns out its NOT the least damaging thing you could do. If you, like, left the plant in-situ and didn't kill it at all, THAT would be the least damage you could do. But if your route is so amazing the death of a 100 year old plant is required, well, that must be some route.

It also turns out the least damaging thing you could do is not go climbing, because you’re using a whole lot of petroleum products to do so. I have a feeling more than one bush was killed to mine all that petroleum.

Matt H wrote:

Listen morons.  Oil exists so there is nothing anybody can do about anything, ok?  
This is serious little bitch material, just so you know.  

You had me at “Listen morons.”

I agonized over removing a coffee maker sized bush for about a decade or more. I would climb around it, but no one ever seemed to want to follow me. So I did it. I removed the bush. I felt terrible for about an hour. Since then, I do the climb a couple of times a week, and the move is no different. I don't really notice that the bush is gone. The climb looks better and climbs better. Still. no one else wants to do the route with me.

If i can sling it as pro even fairly bad pro leave it smaller than that it can go if in the way. Sometimes the big bushes only need some trimming off one side and then not in the way but not killed.  Really is a case by case thing with me too many variables for a yes or no answer.  

All goes back to the yer gonna die wisdom is it you or the tree in this case ....?

Climbing Weasel wrote:

All fun and games until you get to a crag in New Mexico and see some bald guy removing crack from a bush…

This checks out.