i have 2 questions

is a 40m rope enough for outdoor single pitch sport climbing or is it a no go?

Also is the length of climbs in this app in feet or meters?

Generally a 60m is a good all around outdoor single pitch cragging rope length. There are certain crags where you can get away with a 40m but it can tend to be a limiting factor, and if you want to be able to climb at multiple different areas a 60m is the smallest you’ll want. A 70m is a bit better in my opinion.

routes show length for both feet and meters

40 meter rope is too short for many single pitch sport climbs. That is a gym length rope. Standard rope length is 60 or 70 meters

You can set the units of the route pitch lengths to be meters or feet (imperial) in the app settings

tie a knot at the end. plz.

50m was the standard decades ago. Then it went to 60m which seems to be a decent for most things, but then freaky people have been pushing to 70m so that’s kinda where we’re at. 70m would be the good buy for an all around rope. Whatever you do check the beta and maybe tie some knots. 

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To distill what has been written above about rope:  Many sport climb FA's have been established using 70m ropes.  To increase your odds of a safe return to the ground, a 70m rope is your best choice.  

Yer gonna die.

Mike Memmel wrote:

50m was the standard decades ago. Then it went to 60m which seems to be a decent for most things, but then freaky people have been pushing to 70m so that’s kinda where we’re at. 70m would be the good buy for an all around rope. Whatever you do check the beta and maybe tie some knots. 

70m is pretty standard now.  The freaky people have moved on to 80m.

150’ was standard in the late 60’s, early 70’s, a convenient multiple of the standard American 600’ spool. 

60m will get you up and down almost every single pitch route. I recommend getting a 70m so that you can top rope comfortably the small % of routes that are too long for a 60. It is also nice because if you are hard on a rope in a short amount of time, you can cut the ends off if they get heavily worn/soft and you will still have a rope that's plenty long. I'd also recommend a bi-pattern rope over one with a middle mark if you can help it, this makes rappelling/abseiling faster, easier and safer.

Billy Daffin wrote:

60m will get you up and down almost every single pitch route. I recommend getting a 70m so that you can top rope comfortably the small % of routes that are too long for a 60. It is also nice because if you are hard on a rope in a short amount of time, you can cut the ends off if they get heavily worn/soft and you will still have a rope that's plenty long. I'd also recommend a bi-pattern rope over one with a middle mark if you can help it, this makes rappelling/abseiling faster, easier and safer.

Billy, you crack me up bud,  cut end off bi-pattern kills the benefit,  no longer marks the center.  @OP, just get a standard 70m rope on sale.   

Pete S wrote:

Billy, you crack me up bud,  cut end off bi-pattern kills the benefit,  no longer marks the center.  @OP, just get a standard 70m rope on sale.   

I mean he has Ship Rock on his to-do list, which should be far more concerning than the whole cutting a middle marked rope lmao 

@OP a 40m rope will definitely get you down 20m routes. The routes on this app I believe can be switched to ft somewhere in the settings 

Pete S wrote:

Billy, you crack me up bud,  cut end off bi-pattern kills the benefit,  no longer marks the center.  @OP, just get a standard 70m rope on sale.   

just cut the same amount from both ends

Pete S wrote:

Billy, you crack me up bud,  cut end off bi-pattern kills the benefit,  no longer marks the center.  @OP, just get a standard 70m rope on sale.   

Cutting the ends off of a “standard” rope “kills the benefit” because the middle mark “no longer marks the center”. You have the option of swapping ends each time you tie in to distribute the wear, this rope will see a lot of wear near the ends because OP is sport cragging (barring some major singular rope-damaging event). All things being equal, with a “standard” rope it is always more difficult to consistently identify the end last lead on.

OP, you open the MP app on the home screen, scroll down to the bottom and select “settings”, from there you can toggle between feet and meters.

Billy Daffin wrote:

Cutting the ends off of a “standard” rope “kills the benefit” because the middle mark “no longer marks the center”. You have the option of swapping ends each time you tie in to distribute the wear, this rope will see a lot of wear near the ends because OP is sport cragging (barring some major singular rope-damaging event). All things being equal, with a “standard” rope it is always more difficult to consistently identify the end last lead on.

What is a “standard” rope….? Are you referring to a rope that isn’t middle marked?

My take is OP is a newer climber.  Standard rope is 10.5 to 9.5, without Bi-pattern, dry treatments, ect that add an extra $100-$200+ to rope cost.   Finding the middle of a rope isn’t that hard.  

It not only kills the benefit, it could kill a climber rappelling 

Billy Daffin wrote:

I'd also recommend a bi-pattern rope over one with a middle mark if you can help it, this makes rappelling/abseiling faster, easier and safer.

OP, please don't rappel off single pitch sport routes.

alijah Nino wrote:

is a 40m rope enough for outdoor single pitch sport climbing or is it a no go?

Also is the length of climbs in this app in feet or meters?

Most places in the US, a 60 is pretty standard. 40 works in Texas.

Start with a 60m and still tie knots in the end, unless you live somewhere that specifically only requires something shorter. If you end up getting into multi-pitch, you can explore 70s, and all the other options you may end up wanting.

Seriously Moderate Climber wrote:

OP, please don't rappel off single pitch sport routes.

That’s not the OP, just some dude who thinks he can still climb on Ship Rock and cuts the end off of middle marked ropes 

Kevin DeWeese wrote:

Prob how OP ended up with a 40m rope

Well if you start with a 70m, you've got a pretty good chance to cut it down to 60m and prolong its useful life.  Then shorter again later to use as a gym rope.