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Blog on Rock Climbing and Data Analytics

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Arne Warnke · · Mannheim, DE · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 0

Hi together,

As a passionate rock climber and a data enthusiast, I have started a blog "Climbstat" focusing on data analytics for rock climbing and bouldering.

Let me please share my blog with you. I discuss there, for example, the role of height and weight for rock climbing performance.

You can find the blog here: climbstat.blogspot.com

Future topics will include the question of a critical period to start with climbing to become excellent, or a statistical investigation which popular crags are grade inflated or sandbagged.

Please let me know what you think. Remarks or criticism are very welcome :-)

Arne
r m · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2015 · Points: 0

That's pretty cool. Nice work.

Niccolo Gallio · · mainly Italy · Joined May 2019 · Points: 0

As a 44yo climber thst started climbing a little more than a year ago I think I’ll stay clear of your website

Jeremy Bauman · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,102

Very cool! Is there a way to follow ? 

Arne Warnke · · Mannheim, DE · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 0
Jeremy Bauman wrote: Very cool! Is there a way to follow ? 

Good point, thanks. I added an email subscription form to the right panel. Feel free to subscribe :-)

ubu · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 10

Wow.  Really nice.  Now I know just how much my climbing sucks.

Bill Czajkowski · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 21

Is there any way to get those 3D plots to stop rotating so I can actually look at the data?

JNE · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 2,100
Bill Czajkowski wrote: Is there any way to get those 3D plots to stop rotating so I can actually look at the data?

Seriously, those rotating plots are awkward. I really like the concept, but I would like it so much more if I could rotate the plot myself, or at least slow it down or speed it up. 

Also, while I don't disagree with the data presented there which says that weight is the larger factor (as opposed to height) in determining overall climbing grade and that the larger/heavier climbers are at an overall disadvantage in terms of overall difficulty, I find that presentation of the data fails to capture what most people are talking about when they claim 'climbing is easier for the tall'. When people say 'climbing is easier for the tall' they mean that a taller climber can have a lower power to weight ratio and still climb any particular grade, not that the ceiling of achievement for taller climbers is higher than it is for shorter climbers.
Jack Kearney · · Escondido · Joined Apr 2011 · Points: 55

Awesome blog! I subscribed to get updates, keep up the good work!

Kevinmurray · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2012 · Points: 0

OK, kind of i guess but is there really a point to it, or a real need.

r m · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2015 · Points: 0
Kevinmurray wrote: OK, kind of i guess but is there really a point to it, or a real need.

Hold on kev, let me translate your comment:

Kevinmurray wrote: I have different interests.

Generally in climbing people are spouting crap of all kinds of conjecture asserting it is correct. I find it nice for someone to bring some analysis along, a thing that we're generally starved of. I think we should have more of this sort of stuff.

Kevinmurray · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2012 · Points: 0

Yeah I do find statistics mind numbing. But climbing is something we do for fun, or we wouldn't do it right, so does it need to be dissected to a mere number and equation.

Abogado Chris · · San Diego, CA · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 1
Kevinmurray wrote: Yeah I do find statistics mind numbing. But climbing is something we do for fun, or we wouldn't do it right, so does it need to be dissected to a mere number and equation.

Numbers and equations are fun to some people, if this isn’t fun to you then move on. Duh. 

Phil Lauffen · · Innsbruck, AT · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 3,113

Super interesting! I'm curious how you got the data from 8a.nu? I've always been interested in building something with the treasure trove that exists, but I've heard Lars is quite aggressive with his lawyers when someone crawls his website to extract data.

Tradiban · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2004 · Points: 11,610
Abogado Chris wrote:

Numbers and equations are fun to some people, if this isn’t fun to you then move on. Duh. 

I think the problem is that number dorks tend to take things only at face value and miss everything else.

Michael Atlas · · Charlotte, NC · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 85

Very cool site, what tech are you using to build your models and viz?

Bill Czajkowski · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 21
Tradiban wrote:

I think the problem is that number dorks tend to take things only at face value and miss everything else.

In contrast to the other kind of dorks and their mind-blinding biases.

David Bruneau · · St. John · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 2,650
Phil Lauffen wrote: Super interesting! I'm curious how you got the data from 8a.nu? I've always been interested in building something with the treasure trove that exists, but I've heard Lars is quite aggressive with his lawyers when someone crawls his website to extract data.

Looks like the data was scraped and posted to Kaggle by some other guy in 2017, who was then threatened with legal action and took the data down.

Jim Bouldin · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2020 · Points: 0
Generally in climbing people are spouting crap of all kinds of conjecture asserting it is correct. I find it nice for someone to bring some analysis along, a thing that we're generally starved of. I think we should have more of this sort of stuff.

Bingo.

John Reeve · · Durango, formely from TX · Joined Nov 2018 · Points: 15

Neato stuff there.

For what it's worth, after a quick scan I'm mostly curious about how things break down by age.  For instance, I didn't start making climbing a priority in my life until last year when my kiddo graduated high school and liberated me to go do what I want.  If you're looking for stuff to prioritize, the "how many years does it take to climb 7a" charts examined by age would be interesting to me.

StatJuan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 10
My Cal At Last wrote: Very cool site, what tech are you using to build your models and viz?

The rotating plots look like they were generating using persp() in R.  

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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