An Attempt is Not a Tick

Lots of people "tick" climbs on this site without actually sending the climb.  They'll put "attempt" or something along those lines.  It seems to be more common with boulder problems.

I always thought that "ticking a climb" meant that you sent it.  So if you didn't actually send it, then you don't get to tick it!

You know my opinion, so what's yours?

When I used to put ticks in my guide book I wouldn't tick without sending no falls.  I document tries in MP's ticks because it has the option to mark it as "fell/hung".  This helps me remember when i last tried it and make a beta note.

Michael Lagueux wrote: 
You know my opinion, so what's yours?

You are too young to be a boomer

Michael Lagueux wrote: I always thought that "ticking a climb" meant that you sent it.  So if you didn't actually send it, then you don't get to tick it!

Who is going to stop me?

Oh, bother, this again. My opinion is you're wrong.   
Seriously, though, use that feature how you see fit. I use it to tick attempts, and note attempts as such, so I know when I was on the route. Most importantly, be honest with yourself. It matters to no one else. 

Michael Lagueux wrote: Lots of people "tick" climbs on this site without actually sending the climb.  They'll put "attempt" or something along those lines.  It seems to be more common with boulder problems.

I always thought that "ticking a climb" meant that you sent it.  So if you didn't actually send it, then you don't get to tick it!

You know my opinion, so what's yours?

Who cares?

Artem Vasilyev wrote: If you're concerned with figuring out with what somebody has sent, that information is available if you want to go through somebodies list.

Not reliably. I just read "December 9, 2019" on someone's list.

It matters to me when viewing someone's tick list as a source of information to assess a potential partner. If they are forthcoming and realistically truthful, it is a potentially good indicator to hook up. But if they say or their profile says they lead 5.X and the tick list shows one or two 5.X with hangs and falls and the the only clean leads are several grades lower. I see that as a mismatch in a person's self perception... non starter. And if someone falsifies info on a tick list and can't actually climb what they say they can it can be a safety issue.

So actually it does matter to someone else, and can be a useful filter for finding partners

I don't care if someone includes the entry if they didn't send as long as that is duly noted in the comments.

You have your rules, other people have their own.

WHY would you care what/how other people tick? MP tick feature allows you to do it. What/how you put in is entirely up to individuals. Back in the day, MP didn't have a way to apply multiple ticks, now they do. And I like to keep track of how many times I tried a route, so I use the feature that is available to me.

I would prefer the MP tick feature to only show one/best-style tick per route by other people in their public profile and in the route info (e.g. if someone flashed the route in 2010, and now warms up on a route, and ticks it 50 times, because they are working on a route nearby, and that first route is the only warmup, the salient information to other people is that they flashed the route, not that they climb it all the time. Or, if someone worked the route over the course of 10 attempts, and eventually redpointed it, the most salient fact is that they have redpointed it. Whether they choose to repeat the route 50 time over the next year is important to them, for their pitch count, but is not necessary to display as 50 additional ticks visible to other people. Same with a hangdog. if someone dogged the route 30 times, and hadn't sent it yet, just display the last time they did so on their publicly-visible list)

But I don't care all that much if someone sees how many times I tried, and failed, to send my project. or what route is my favorite warmup.

I agree and started a similar thread a while back:

How Do You Qualify....

I visualized the send

Sometimes I comb through MP for nice looking climbs, and if I think "Yeah I could probably do that"  I'll tick it.  Just last weekend I sent a bunch of routes on El Cap and also Scotland.

One time I put a check mark next to a route in my guidebook even though I pulled on a draw.

Fite me IRL

I tick every ascent as a way of tracking both attempts on hard climbs, as well as my personal mileage. Why do you care how I use my ticklist? At least I specify if I hung on a route, so I'm not deluding myself as to what grade I climb.

ETA: I like to track my "days on rock", which Mt Proj conveniently tabulates for us. I also often go out climbing and only attempt one route. If I don't send (maybe I climbed the thing to the top several times, but fell each time), then it messes up my climbing log. So I tick every attempt of every climb.

Michael Lagueux wrote: 

You know my opinion, so what's yours?

My opinion is that you lose your shit when someone doesn't use their turn signal when they're already in a turn only lane.

This is an odd thing to be so opinionated about

mountainhick wrote: It matters to me when viewing someone's tick list as a source of information to assess a potential partner. If they are forthcoming and realistically truthful, it is a potentially good indicator to hook up. But if they say or their profile says they lead 5.X and the tick list shows one or two 5.X with hangs and falls and the the only clean leads are several grades lower. I see that as a mismatch in a person's self perception... non starter. And if someone falsifies info on a tick list and can't actually climb what they say they can it can be a safety issue.

So actually it does matter to someone else, and can be a useful filter for finding partners

I don't care if someone includes the entry if they didn't send as long as that is duly noted in the comments.

As if someone's tick list resembles reality.

Who the hell cares?

Michael Lagueux wrote: Lots of people "tick" climbs on this site without actually sending the climb.  They'll put "attempt" or something along those lines.  It seems to be more common with boulder problems.

I always thought that "ticking a climb" meant that you sent it.  So if you didn't actually send it, then you don't get to tick it!

You know my opinion, so what's yours?

There's literally a fell/hung option when you tick a route on MP. Why do you care how other people use the feature? 

For years, 35+ year old 5.9 to 5.10- trad climbers have consistently been the people most concerned about how other people approach climbing. It's some kind of weird ego integrity thing that is often accompanied by weak sauce excuses for their own weak sauce sends

Michael Lagueux wrote: Lots of people "tick" climbs on this site without actually sending the climb.  They'll put "attempt" or something along those lines.  It seems to be more common with boulder problems.

I always thought that "ticking a climb" meant that you sent it.  So if you didn't actually send it, then you don't get to tick it!

You know my opinion, so what's yours?

My opinion is if you wanna try and judge my worth as a potential partner based solely on my tick marks on MP, without actually talking to me like a real partner would, you is a fool. Get off my lawn, and don't let the gate whap ya in the ass on your way out, eh?

I've "ticked" plenty I've not "sent", and a few I've not even climbed. Catching a fall and gaining a best friend matters too.Keeping track of those kind people around the country I've climbed with or hosted here in Boise is a main use of tracking for me. When climbing becomes solely about the "send", just shoot me please?

Rating a climb, yes, please climb the thing. Ticks? Geez, who cares? Wait. You do, for some reason.....

Best, Helen