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Beginner big wall

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Jake W · · Provo, UT · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 0

Hey y'all,

After a brief stint away from climbing due to a shoulder surgery, I am back with a craving to go higher than single pitch. I'm still relatively new in the world of trad, but I'm starting to look for a big wall trip to go on in a few weeks. I would love an easier multi-day climb, as my climbing partner and I are itching to try some portaledges we got ahold of.

Where should I go?

Edit:

By "relatively new", I mean I have been Trad Climbing for a year and a half and am comfortable trad climbing up to a 5.10. I say relatively new because I haven't done any big wall, and don't have the years of experience some of y'all do. I am going with an ex-Everest guide who taught climbing at my University for years, and I'm comfortable with all the techniques I'll need. I'm literally just looking for recommendations on easier multi-day climbs to get a feel for it.   

Big B · · Reno, NV · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 1

moonlight buttress ;)

Andrew Child · · Corvallis, Or · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 1,553

How much knowledge do you have about big wall climbing? How much experience do you have with multipitches? I'm not a bigwall climber myself, but bigwalls should not be the immediate next step from single pitch. Especially if you are still "relatively new" to trad climbing.

Fail Falling · · @failfalling - Oakland, Ca · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 1,043
Jake W wrote: 
...I am back with a craving to go higher than single pitch. I'm still relatively new in the world of trad, but I'm starting to look for a big wall trip to go on in a few weeks. I would love an easier multi-day climb, as my climbing partner and I are itching to try some portaledges we got ahold of.

You're new to trad but you want to go on a bigwall complete with ledge and hauling in a few weeks? good luck with that.

Abram Herman · · Grand Junction, CO · Joined May 2009 · Points: 20

The pink one in the corner, 300 laps.

Fail Falling · · @failfalling - Oakland, Ca · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 1,043
Big B wrote: moonlight buttress ;)

Jake W · · Provo, UT · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 0
kevin deweese wrote: You're new to trad but you want to go on a bigwall complete with ledge and hauling in a few weeks? good luck with that.

When I say new to Trad, I mean I have been trad climbing for a year and a half consistently, own 2 full racks, and am comfortable trad climbing 5.10's, I say beginner because I haven't done any big wall. 

Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,419


Jake W wrote:Hey y'all,

After a brief stint away from climbing due to a shoulder surgery, I am back with a craving to go higher than single pitch. I'm still relatively new in the world of trad, but I'm starting to look for a big wall trip to go on in a few weeks. I would love an easier multi-day climb, as my climbing partner and I are itching to try some portaledges we got ahold of.

Where should I go?

With A blown shoulder no less! ohman nawaimeen, wheres that Wootwoodson sandbox guy when he is needed? Is there a signal or something?
( my posts used to draw him in like A fly to....sh... like a month to a flame:+D)

Jake W · · Provo, UT · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 0
Andrew Child wrote: How much knowledge do you have about big wall climbing? How much experience do you have with multipitches? I'm not a bigwall climber myself, but bigwalls should not be the immediate next step from single pitch. Especially if you are still "relatively new" to trad climbing. 

By relatively new, I mean I've been trad climbing for a year and a half. I say relatively new because I haven't done any big wall. 

Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,419

Just to add Y G D

Jake W · · Provo, UT · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 0
Big B wrote: moonlight buttress ;)

I actually was considering doing Moonlight. Aiding it of course   

Andrew Child · · Corvallis, Or · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 1,553
Jake W wrote: By relatively new, I mean I've been trad climbing for a year and a half. I say relatively new because I haven't done any big wall. 

Have you done multi pitches though? Anything long, like 6+ pitches? Do you know how to aid climb (at least C1 or C2)? How to haul? How to poop on a wall? These are all things that are probably prerequisites to bigwalls.

David Bruneau · · St. John · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 3,011

To answer the question, I found the West Face of Leaning Tower to be a good first big wall climb. If the smoke settles by the time you are going.

Try a couple multipitch climbs with all the gear that you would bring on a big wall climb to get a feel for the system. Try find climbs that are too hard to free climb, that will force you to aid. Unpopular climbs are preferable because it's gonna be slow the first time...

Peter J · · Bishop · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 687
Jake W wrote: I actually was considering doing Moonlight. Aiding it of course   

I can't tell if you're in on the joke or not....

Jake W · · Provo, UT · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 0
Andrew Child wrote:

Have you done multi pitches though? Anything long, like 6+ pitches? Do you know how to aid climb (at least C1 or C2)? How to haul? How to poop on a wall? These are all things that are probably prerequisites to bigwalls.

Yeah, I've done up to 17 pitches on Sport, and 10 on Trad. I do know how to aid climb, but only up to a C2 (I'm not great at it). And I actually am the climbing TA at my university, and actually help to teach others how to eat, poop, and manage gear on multi pitch   . I did a dry run a couple weeks ago just on a 2 pitch climb, hauling the gear, setting up the portaledge and cooking lunch, etc. 

Andrew Child · · Corvallis, Or · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 1,553
Jake W wrote:

Yeah, I've done up to 17 pitches on Sport, and 10 on Trad. I do know how to aid climb, but only up to a C2 (I'm not great at it). And I actually am the climbing TA at my university, and actually help to teach others how to eat, poop, and manage gear on multi pitch   . I did a dry run a couple weeks ago just on a 2 pitch climb, hauling the gear, setting up the portaledge and cooking lunch, etc. 

Thanks for the clarification. Your original post as well as your MP profile made it sound like you were getting in way over your head.

Jake W · · Provo, UT · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 0
Peter J wrote:

I can't tell if you're in on the joke or not....

If I was good enough to climb Moonlight Buttress, I wouldn't be posting here to find something to climb   

John Clark · · BLC · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 1,408

I would say avoid popular free climbs if you plan to go slow. Sounds like you have your basics though! good luck!

Keep in mind that grades on walls (at least in yosemite) can be more sandbagged than single pitch climbs and you may be shit at the area's style, so go get in some short free climbs a couple grades above what you may encounter on the wall before you pack your pig.

Suburban Roadside · · Abovetraffic on Hudson · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,419
Jake W wrote:Yeah, I've done up to 17 pitches on Sport, and 10 on Trad. I do know how to aid climb, but only up to a C2 (I'm not great at it). And I actually am the climbing TA at my university, and actually help to teach others how to eat, poop, and manage gear on multi pitch   . I did a dry run a couple weeks ago just on a 2 pitch climb, hauling the gear, setting up the portaledge and cooking lunch, etc. 



Andrew Child wrote:

Thanks for the clarification. Your original post as well as your MP profile made it sound like you were getting in way over your head.

Well that changes things - The advise to work up to Leaning Tower, is the old school way.... 

David Bruneau · 26 mins ago · St. John ·                                                                                                                                                                                                                      To answer the question, I found the West Face of Leaning Tower to be a good first big wall climb. If the smoke settles by the time you are going.

Try a couple multipitch climbs with all the gear that you would bring on a big wall climb to get a feel for the system. Try find climbs that are too hard to free climb, that will force you to aid. Unpopular climbs are preferable because it's gonna be slow the first time...

WoodyW · · Port Orchard, WA. · Joined Sep 2014 · Points: 70

Check out this. South Face - WA Column It's overnighter if you're like normal people, and then summit the 2nd day. No need for a portal edge though....

John Clark · · BLC · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 1,408

Careful in yose right now unless you like inhaling the smoke of a thousand trees  (and BBQ'd cute little forest animals).

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Southern Utah Deserts
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