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B B · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2023 · Points: 0

I have called my Utah legislatures yesterday, and today, I will spend my lunch calling Mike Lee and Curtis. They will be on speed dial at this point to make calling them easier.
Also call them while you are on the way to the crag, the trail head, etc. and let them know that. let them know you are actively using the land. May not do anything… but makes me feel better I guess. 

Tim Bratten · · Balcarce, AR · Joined May 2017 · Points: 4,421
PWZwrote:

you keep repeating this in multiple threads, but what you're really calling "left" is barely center.

In today's Republican narrative, American's public lands tradition, the inheritance of GOP President T. Roosevelt expresses the values of communist, radical-left lunatics

Tony Danza · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2024 · Points: 5
Bruno Schullwrote:

If land is sold, what will happen to it?  Where will it go?

Mining, oil, expensive condos, gated communities, shopping malls, golf courses, etc.  These will make a very small number of people very rich.  

I'm really curious: tthere are plenty of people here with a very conservative, free-market, laissez-faire political views.  You know, government should be small and exist only to enfoerce contracts and uphold the consitution, private industry will run anything more efficiently than the government, if the market makes something available then nothing should stand in the way, and so forth. 

What do people who hold those views say about this?

As long as it owns the libs, that’s all that matters to them.

If you’re conservative you shouldn’t even be allowed in national parks and public lands, your party has been against public lands since before public lands existed. 70% of conservative congressmen at the time voted against the creation of Yellowstone national park in 1872, and with a few minor exceptions, conservatives have been against every public land measure since.

Imagine if I spend a century and a half voting against funding the fire department but meanwhile I call the fire department for help? 

Alan Rubin · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2015 · Points: 10
Tony Danzawrote:

As long as it owns the libs, that’s all that matters to them.

If you’re Republican you shouldn’t even be allowed in national parks and public lands, your party has been against public lands since before public lands existed.

As I wrote on the other thread about this ( Red Alert), there is cause for some optimism that this proposed piece of legislation might be defeated--and, if so, largely due to the opposition of some conservative, but somewhat outdoor recreational use-friendly, Senators. We have to keep up the pressure though.

apogee · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 0
Tony Danzawrote:

… your party has been against public lands since before public lands existed. 

Ok, you made me look. According to the National Parks Conservation Association, Republican Presidents have created a good number of National Monuments, but not much since Teddy Roosevelt. In recent years, Obama and Clinton top the list.

Tony Danza · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2024 · Points: 5
apogeewrote:

Ok, you made me look. According to the National Parks Conservation Association, Republican Presidents have created a good number of National Monuments, but not much since Teddy Roosevelt. In recent years, Obama and Clinton top the list.

Roosevelt was a Republican when the racist kkk Southerners were democrats, party alignment switched since then, which is why I use the word conservative. Roosevelt was a progressive, not a conservative, and you’re correct, outside of him, the Republican Party has done almost squat for public lands.

X Foliator · · AnCapistan · Joined Feb 2025 · Points: 0

The Federal Reserve lends money to the Federal Government, gets paid back with interest. That interest is currently the #2 expenditure of the Federal Government. The beneficiaries of this land sell-off (Blackrock) have also been accumulating the capital to make these purchases directly from this lending/debt system you people who just worship the Federal State has been extorting from all of us.

End. The. Fed. 

Both Reserve and State 

Recognize that it's the Federal State and its unconstitutional control of land, plus its debt slavery currency system that is exactly why this problem exists. If were only your state, at least the people responsible for the land live among you and are much more easily replaced 

Eric Moss · · Exton, PA · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 95
Tony Danzawrote:

If you’re conservative you shouldn’t even be allowed in national parks and public lands

Read that again, slowly.

Tony Danza · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2024 · Points: 5
Eric Mosswrote:

Read that again, slowly.

If you vote against something why should you be allowed in that something? If I vote against funding the fire department, should I be allowed to call them? If not for liberals and progressives, there wouldn’t even be public lands, and you’d need an Ikon pass to visit Jellystone Natural Park.

I hadn’t felt this way before Trump, but if they’re gonna vote to destroy our entire democratic republic, public lands included, then yea this is how I feel.

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