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LRS: Freebell backup device

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Mr Rogers · · Pollock Pines and Bay area CA · Joined Aug 2010 · Points: 72

Kickstarter out now.
KickStarter Link

Ive been watching this guys post about the design process on this and updates along the journey. KS out now for those that maybe interested in backing the backup.

Also interested to hear the peanut galleries thoughts.

evan freeman · · Carson City · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 0

KS blew up overnight, so it's certainly going to go ahead.  I'm on the list, naturally.  I'm not 100% sure it will be the panacea we all hope for, as it will have to be held far enough away from the primary device to not slam into it.  But it's worth a try!

Mike Larson · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined May 2006 · Points: 70
evan freeman wrote:

 I'm not 100% sure it will be the panacea we all hope for, as it will have to be held far enough away from the primary device to not slam into it.  But it's worth a try!

It's going to depend on the device. For those of us with Silent Partners, this is the Holy Grail. Goodbye backups knots forever.

Ricky Harline · · Angel's Camp, CA · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 147
Mike Larson wrote:

It's going to depend on the device. For those of us with Silent Partners, this is the Holy Grail. Goodbye backups knots forever.

Will work amazing with inline devices like the Taz, Sulu, and Vergo as well. 

Jared E · · CO-based healthcare traveler · Joined Nov 2022 · Points: 369

I can’t really imagine a device it wouldnt pair well with. While it may be a lot bigger than PCDs for cache mgmt, that drawback is easily offset by the fact you don’t need three devices (or knots and/or friction hitches).

A straight-through (or dogleg) version would be nice for those who backpack their line.

Healyje · · PDX · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 422

Unnecessary...

Ricky Harline · · Angel's Camp, CA · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 147
Healyje wrote:

Unnecessary...

As someone who has tried your rig and is terrified by it, I think safety in general is considered unnecessary to you. To each their own. 

Duncan Domingue · · Nederland, CO (from Louisiana) · Joined May 2015 · Points: 10

Just pledged! There are only 5 spots left, so if you want one you better hurry up!

Healyje · · PDX · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 422
Ricky Harline wrote:

As someone who has tried your rig and is terrified by it, I think safety in general is considered unnecessary to you. To each their own. 

As someone with twenty-one years and 5000+ trad pitches in on the Eddy I’d say we have different concepts of safety. If you were terrified then I’m guessing you weren’t using my exact rig or didn’t understand iit. Have taken a litany of falls on it and will be using it to do a fiftieth anniversary rope solo of the Bastille Crack this year, my first rope solo in ‘75.

Mr Rogers · · Pollock Pines and Bay area CA · Joined Aug 2010 · Points: 72

Healy doesn't take dissenting opinon on his set up well as the record shows of the years of him defending his set up when peoples point out potential issues and failures.
You got a set up that works for ya. Cool, its also cool that others question the safety of the system, cause ya know, 1:1,000,000 things do occur, we all just hope its not to the the deck.

The pedant in me has one small gripe, the eddy cam out in 2005, so you could not be using it for 21 years unless maybe you got that inside track back in 2004 ahead of release =) but next year get your boy Eddy a drink, seems like he's earned it.

Ricky Harline · · Angel's Camp, CA · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 147
Healyje wrote:

As someone with twenty-one years and 5000+ trad pitches in on the Eddy I’d say we have different concepts of safety. If you were terrified then I’m guessing you weren’t using my exact rig or didn’t understand iit. Have taken a litany of falls on it and will be using it to do a fiftieth anniversary rope solo of the Bastille Crack this year, my first rope solo in ‘75.

No, I used your exact setup and understand it well. I understand that it works well for you and I'm not trying to convince you that you should use any other setup. 

Some people are terrified of the Revo for no good reason. Your rig just gives me the heebie jeebies, especially with it's complete failure to catch high clips unless you manually flip the cam. 

Lemme see if I get this straight: let's say I'm climbing a somewhat hard for me crack, and I want to place high. I put the piece in, pull out some slack, and until I manually flip the cam on the Eddy I'm going for a ride to the end of my rope if I fall, yes? I fall all the time and I rarely know when I'm going to or not. Ergo this is not a suitable setup for me. The Eddy requires a lot of control from the climber which is absent in this shitty example of a free climber. 

Slow Grown · · Idaho · Joined Jul 2018 · Points: 0
Mr Rogers wrote:

Kickstarter out now.
KickStarter Link

Ive been watching this guys post about the design process on this and updates along the journey. KS out now for those that maybe interested in backing the backup.

Also interested to hear the peanut galleries thoughts.

Where has he been posting about development?

evan freeman · · Carson City · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 0
Slow Grown wrote:

Where has he been posting about development?

He detailed the whole idea, prototyping, and testing on the Facebook LRS group. Very open source.

Jabroni McChufferson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2024 · Points: 0

Dang looks pretty neat to have a cache loop/ back up all in one.  

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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