Time to replace my Cilogear 30L Worksack

I've had a Cilogear 30L worksack for about 12 years and it's finally due for replacement. Are there any similar packs I should consider, or should I just try to get another worksack? I loved the versatility of it and the durability and the size. Perfect for everything I needed and I used most of it's features.

Why change if it does everything you want from it? Are you looking for any particular areas for improvement? 

Yeah, sounds like a no brainer.

Tufa Mochilla 33

https://tufaclimbing.com/

Arc’teryx Alpha FL 30

that guy named seb wrote:

Why change if it does everything you want from it? Are you looking for any particular areas for improvement? 

Mostly because of lack of availability of cilogear packs. Nothing to improve, except availability. 

TJ Brumme wrote:

Mostly because of lack of availability of cilogear packs. Nothing to improve, except availability. 

I was in the same boat and have tried a lot of other packs since then and still feel like my 30L worksack was the best pack I’ve owned. I tried Blue Ice, Mountain Hardware, Alpha SL and AR (AR was close but didn’t fit right and not available) and at the price of Cilo maybe it’s worth hitting up John at Alpine Luddites ? (Edit, wow those are not cheap even in a world of crazy expensive) maybe Samaya packs? 

bearded sam wrote:

I was in the same boat and have tried a lot of other packs since then and still feel like my 30L worksack was the best pack I’ve owned. I tried Blue Ice, Mountain Hardware, Alpha SL and AR (AR was close but didn’t fit right and not available) and at the price of Cilo maybe it’s worth hitting up John at Alpine Luddites ? (Edit, wow those are not cheap even in a world of crazy expensive) maybe Samaya packs? 

Alpha AR seems like a good option, but it's not available anymore. Considering the BD Speed 30 now. Anyone else used it?

https://the-high-route.com/first-look-arcteryxs-alpha-sl-pack/

The new Arc’teryx Alpha SL could fit the bill? Set to be released in May! 

Going from Cilogear to BD will most likely be a disappointment durability-wise. Alpine Luddites is probably a great option. Also check out Alpinist Lab, they both use Ultra fabric to my knowledge, and I've heard Alpine Luddites packs are extremely durable.

Highly recommend the Mountain Equipment Tupilak 30+

If you are stoked with the cilo, why not get another? The MOB is in stock and @ $400, if it last you another 12y, that is like $33/year for usage...

https://www.cilogear.com/3004.html

IMO, Cilo was a revolutionary pack 15 years ago but now they are just another company in a crowded and competitive market.  I'm currently carrying a Raide Research pack for winter ski touring and into the spring volcano season.  There's a good chance I'll continue to carry it through the summer instead of my Mystery Ranch Sceptor pack.  

I had a Cilo pack a long time ago and loved the pack body but the suspension did not fit my body very well.  The MR pack is close to being a simple tube but with much better load carrying capabilities.

I bought a cilogear pack in 2011.  I was easily the worst pack I have owned since the 1980s and wore out in under a year.  Buy a cheaper mass produced pack, you can get several for the same price if you buy on sale.  I like the mutant 38.

That said if you like the cilogear pack, buy another. 

EDIT:  I see cilogear packs are much cheaper than they used to be.  Still I hated mine.

Resurrecting this thread because I'm in the market for a new ~30L pack as all of my packs are 10+ years old. What are people liking these days? 

My 18yo Mammut 45l has been an absolute workhorse for me and I still reach for it every time over my 13yo BD Speed 30 (which weighs a whopping 1400g, only 100g less than the Mammut). I also have a Deuter Speedlite 30L which is 20yo this month and has seen tons of use through the years since I appreciate its light weight (850g) and thoughtful feature set, but it's never carried well. I know there are tons of sub-1000g packs these days in the 25-40l range and that's all I'm interested in.

I've heard tons about the Mutant 38, but the 1200g weight is too much for me. Arcs FL30 and new SL30 are intriguing, as is Blue Ice's lineup. And I honestly have no clue what Cilogear or Hyperlite or the others are making these days. That Tufa Mochilla looks dope but $500 for a pack is insane.

I don't need a load hauler; my Mammut still has that covered. I'm just looking for something that can replace my Deuter, preferably at a lighter weight.

TJ, I’d say that in 2025 if you don’t get a pack made with dyneema then you aren’t cool—but the fact is you are about the coolest person I know.

Tufa Mochilla is the best pack ever.

Mortgage your house.  Buy it.