tommy caldwell moves to california?

Ricky Harline wrote:

Tommy Caldwell doesn't pull himself up, he pushes the mountain down. 

Death had a near Tommy Caldwell experience once. 

Tommy Caldwell makes onions cry. 

Tommy Caldwell has a grizzly bear rug in his room. The bear isn't dead, it's just too afraid to leave. 

Sir Thomas Caldwell of DawnWallenstein didn't dial the wrong number, you answered the wrong phone

MP wrote:

You realize that 99% of the tahoe climbing is on the california side? 

I do, but I also realize that people don't live on the rocks, most of the time. Given the tax advantages of being domiciled in NV, a lot of people choose to live on that side of the state line. 

Tommy Caldwell is a law abiding citizen. Except when it comes to the laws of physics.

MP wrote:

you don't typically move your kids into a new school system to temporarily project a route

Maybe you don’t….but my guess is that you also don’t climb 9a. Maybe that’s why? Didn’t Sharma move into a tent at Clark mountain to establish 5.15? There’s just no commitment anymore these days. Kudos to Tommy for showing the youths what commitment looks like.

It's none of your business where someone of whom you don't know moves. 

If I was TC, I’d be equally flattered and frightened by all this talk about where I live. Mostly frightened.

apogee wrote:

If I was TC, I’d be equally flattered and frightened by all this talk about where I live. Mostly frightened.

We can't even pinpoint what state he's living in currently....

Andrew Rice wrote:

I do, but I also realize that people don't live on the rocks, most of the time. Given the tax advantages of being domiciled in NV, a lot of people choose to live on that side of the state line. 

yeah, i understand the tax advantages (i'm sure tommy is rolling in w2 and capital gains and has to deeply optimize his state tax situation). My point was that tahoe, if you subtract the california side, has almost no compelling climbing. most of the compelling skiing goes away as well. 

If everyone could please respect Tommy’s privacy at this time, especially his move to South Lake Tahoe that he discussed on a podcast and mentioned on his Instagram account. 

Cosmic Hotdog wrote:

Yeah, I'm sure he didn't move to CA solely to project a route but that link I shared is the most recent thing I've seen from him. 

Also at the risk of thread drift: as a CA resident for ~6 years now who went to college in CO previously, in my opinion...CO is better.

CA has better granite, better weather, better (and more) national parks, better weed, and better beer. And we have the ocean. Colorado is a 2 star version of California.

Really says something about this forum and community when this post gets twice as much interaction as Brooke Raboutou sending 9b+

Jiggs Casey wrote:

CA has better granite, better weather, better (and more) national parks, better weed, and better beer. And we have the ocean. Colorado is a 2 star version of California.

The one big advantage Colorado has is that the cities (jobs, universities, etc) are way closer to the mountains and crags. For a lot of people this proximity makes Colorado worth it. Your typical city dwelling working stiff climber will be better off in the Front Range vs the Bay.

This factor doesn't really apply to TC, since here's able to move to the mountains town of his choice. With this freedom of choice, California is better. Especially if granite is your preferred rock type and you want to climb in Yosemite.

The one big advantage Colorado has is that the cities (jobs, universities, etc) are way closer to the mountains and crags. For a lot of people this proximity makes Colorado worth it. Your typical city dwelling working stiff climber will be better off in the Front Range vs the Bay.

It seems like an advantage, till you try skiing on a weekend, or going to any easily accessible crag on the weekend. I think Vegas also suffers from this blessing / curse.

Cherokee Nunes wrote:

It seems like an advantage, till you try skiing on a weekend, or going to any easily accessible crag on the weekend. I think Vegas also suffers from this blessing / curse.

Super true. Especially the ski traffic on I70. There are tradeoffs to easy access for sure. Though those Colorado crowds and traffic issues apply mainly to the easy-access areas. If Denver climbers (or skiers) were to drive the distances that Bay Area climbers and skiers do regularly, they'd be deep in the hinterlands and away from the crowds.

I moved to California 4 years ago after previously living in Seattle and the Front Range. Am still shocked by how uncrowded many of the outdoor spaces are in California. While there are a few areas/crags that attract the crowds, everywhere else is just empty. It is crazy how much good climbing there is with no one around.

Cherokee Nunes wrote:

It seems like an advantage, till you try skiing on a weekend, or going to any easily accessible crag on the weekend. I think Vegas also suffers from this blessing / curse.

The ski traffic on i80 in California is no better than ski traffic on i70 in colorado. both of those highways are gigantic bottlenecks for ski traffic, and are also major arteries for commerce. and being close to cities in both cases, there's gonna be drivers who suck at driving in the snow, causing further bottlenecks. i80 is also a much longer drive mileage-wise. 

and going to any easily accessible crag on the weekend is just a bad move, regardless of where you live. good cardio fitness is just as important as climbing fitness, in order to achieve solitude or be the first in line

James - wrote:

If everyone could please respect Tommy’s privacy at this time, especially his move to South Lake Tahoe that he discussed on a podcast and mentioned on his Instagram account. 

Do you have direct links to those? I can never figure out instagram. 

Marc801 C wrote:

Do you have direct links to those? I can never figure out instagram. 

I think it is this one:

https://www.duffelshufflepodcast.com/episodes/18-tommy-caldwell

JCM wrote:

Super true.  Am still shocked by how uncrowded many of the outdoor spaces are in California. While there are a few areas/crags that attract the crowds, everywhere else is just empty. It is crazy how much good climbing there is with no one around.

Oh crap... now you have done it. :-) But ohhhhhh so true. Just venture a little off the path and you often have the crag to your lonesome. 

Shaniac wrote:

Oh crap... now you have done it. :-) But ohhhhhh so true. Just venture a little off the path and you often have the crag to your lonesome. 

lol nobody is chomping at the the bit to live in the sac metro area despite how great of a local it is with its endless fresh produce and cool nights 

Jabroni McChufferson wrote:

lol nobody is chomping at the the bit to live in the sac metro area despite how great of a local it is with its endless fresh produce and cool nights 

Good!