WTB: Connect Adjust Metal Piece

Want to buy a Connect Adjust, preferably just the metal piece, but if you have one with the rope still in it I would buy that.

SLC pickup or I'll pay shipping

I have one! Would you do 20+ shipping?

I’m also interested - if anyone’s got one let me know!

I also want to buy two

You can buy just the metal piece on Amazon or eBay for about $28 shipped. Search for "Rock Climbing Arrestor Ascender 8.9kN for Rescue Outdoor Tree Arborist"

Duncan Dominguewrote:

You can buy just the metal piece on Amazon or eBay for about $28 shipped. Search for "Rock Climbing Arrestor Ascender 8.9kN for Rescue Outdoor Tree Arborist"

Have you used it? I would love to get this instead of cutting the metal piece off of the petzl rope, but having a hard time trusting an Amazon product from an unknown company with no reviews.

Here’s the Amazon link for anyone looking: 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DF2PSSTZ?ref=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_apin_dp_S603XHGR91PK5TRMZKQR&ref_=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_apin_dp_S603XHGR91PK5TRMZKQR&social_share=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_apin_dp_S603XHGR91PK5TRMZKQR

scampbellwrote:

Have you used it? I would love to get this instead of cutting the metal piece off of the petzl rope, but having a hard time trusting an Amazon product from an unknown company with no reviews.

Here’s the Amazon link for anyone looking: 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DF2PSSTZ?ref=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_apin_dp_S603XHGR91PK5TRMZKQR&ref_=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_apin_dp_S603XHGR91PK5TRMZKQR&social_share=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_apin_dp_S603XHGR91PK5TRMZKQR

No, I haven't used it. I already own a Petzl Evolv Adjust for aid climbing, and don't need more of the things.

Here's a deal to people curious about the Amazon part: I'll buy one for the first person to reply in this thread that promises to do a review of it, with pictures (video would be a plus, not necessary though). And if you want to try a specific cord, I'll throw in a handful of dollars extra do you can buy that cord from your local gear store.

Reply in the thread first, then DM me so I can get your address to have the Amazon piece mailed to you. I'm so tired of hearing people beg for used Petzl Connect pieces when the parts are available new, probably from the same factory as Petzl uses.

I'd happily do a review

Daniel Campbellwrote:

I'd happily do a review

That was quick! Daniel's got it, and I look forward to the review

I'll do it asap. I've also been tired of hearing everyone trying to buy just this metal piece over and over

The part is ordered from Amazon, and should arrive around April 1st. Can't wait to hear the results!

I've been using the knock off for months now and it's fine. 

Its the exact same size and shape as my petzl's that i keep dedicated to my aid harness. 

I got to knock off for TR solo days. 

EDIT: This is the cord I use for both my petzls and the knockoff brand: https://www.bluewaterropes.com/product/8mm-accessory-cord/ 

Isaac Leijawrote:

I've been using the knock off for months now and it's fine. 

Its the exact same size and shape as my petzl's that i keep dedicated to my aid harness. 

I got to knock off for TR solo days. 

EDIT: This is the cord I use for both my petzls and the knockoff brand: https://www.bluewaterropes.com/product/8mm-accessory-cord/ 

Nice, I'm glad to hear that it's the exact same as the Petzl part! I have a very strong suspicion that it is produced in the same factory as the OEM Petzl Connect.

Has someone tested the strength of the knockoff piece? I'm not sure if it's manufactured the same way as the official petzl one, and aluminum's strength is very dependent on things like how it's heat treated that can't be infered by just looking at a part.

I'd be slightly hesitant using an unlisted part for a personal tether, as it's sometimes a single point of failure for me. If you're using it just as an aid positioner, I figure it's not a big deal if it broke at 6kn or something silly.

For reference, there's knockoff unlisted caribeners out there that aren't certified and break at half of what certified gear breaks at in spite of not being any thinner. I've seen a few people suggesting that this could be due to skipping a heat treat step, which would align with my knowledge of aluminum aloys. 

Nathan Jwrote:

Has someone tested the strength of the knockoff piece? I'm not sure if it's manufactured the same way as the official petzl one, and aluminum's strength is very dependent on things like how it's heat treated that can't be infered by just looking at a part.

I'd be slightly hesitant using an unlisted part for a personal tether, as it's sometimes a single point of failure for me. If you're using it just as an aid positioner, I figure it's not a big deal if it broke at 6kn or something silly.

Two Kong Slydes are cheaper than one of those knock off metal pieces.  I would be much more comfortable using them being that they come from a reputable manufacturer.  

TLDR: This knockoff version works just as well as the Petzl as far as I can tell.

Knockoff: https://a.co/d/5UpnPLU

So far I have tested it with a 9.5mm dynamic rope (crag classic), as that's the diameter Petzl recommends. It locks well and holds weight without slipping. I bounce tested it (I'm 190lb) and saw no adverse effects, other than a somewhat difficult to untie figure 8 on my hardpoints.

I tried it with both an Ocun Harpy (large, round stock) and an Edelrid Oasis (smaller, flatter). The larger Ocun is definitely the preference, locking/unlocking smoothly. The smaller Edelrid makes it a little harder to shorten. Those features are all going to be the same as the Petzl version though.

The piece itself is well made. I obviously can't speak to any heat treatment or lack thereof, nor metal composition or anything relative to the Petzl, but on the outside it looks good. There are no burrs or poorly finished corners, the powder coating looks professional and it doesn't scratch easily.

As far as I am concerned, this piece is safe to use - I will definitely be switching my traditional PAS out for it. I would love to see a break test from the likes of HowNot2 on this, but my personal opinion is that *if used correctly* it should never see more than ~1 kN. There would have to be some serious manufacturing flaws to have it break that low.

I do still plan on testing some smaller diameter cord when I get a chance, but that topic has been beaten to death in other posts on this forum already so I don't expect to find anything ground breaking.

If anyone has other things they would like to see, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Ocun:

Edelrid:

Thanks so much for the review Daniel! And thanks for testing out the different carabiners. I use a slightly weird setup on mine for aid climbing; I have a triangular maillon rapide/quick link through the metal bit, and I clip a carabiner though that. I prefer that way because it changes the orientation of the metal bit so it doesn't get pinched against other gear or the wall all the time. When I first got the Petzl Evolv Adjust, it was frustrating because it was always pinched against stuff when I wanted to lower out a bit; I couldn't get my hand between it and the wall to rotate it for lowering. The quick link redirected the metal bit, so I can rotate it easily, and I've been happy with it ever since.

(Edit: this is the only photo I have of my setup, from 9 years ago. In normal use with my setup, i.e. not lassoing a drilled pin out of reach, the metal bit sits parallel to the wall, not perpendicular like in this photo)

Duncan Dominguewrote:

I use a slightly weird setup on mine for aid climbing; I have a triangular maillon rapide/quick link through the metal bit, and I clip a carabiner though that. I prefer that way because it changes the orientation of the metal bit so it doesn't get pinched against other gear or the wall all the time….The quick link redirected the metal bit, so I can rotate it easily, and I've been happy with it ever since.

What diameter maillon rapides are you using?

Brian Rwrote:

What diameter maillon rapides are you using?

Looks like 8mm rod stock diameter, that measures about 50mm wide on the short side of the triangle, and about 75mm tall. I don't see any markings on them, and I can't remember where I bought them.

Duncan Dominguewrote:

“… 8mm rod stock diameter…50mm wide… 75mm tall.”

Duncan, that’s perfect.  Much appreciated.  Looking forward to doing an A/B test with a delta maillon on one arm and a locker (Petzl OK Ball Lock) on the other.