Krukonogi Picks

Theriault wrote: same here, got some and no.... no good for ice... just WAY to thick! Zac, I have a set of "Ice" blades for the Master`s if ya wanna try em, Ill be in your area 13-16 feb ish .

From what I understand, the blades that come with the force alloy are the drytooling blade, and the ones that come with the masters are the ice?

Im sorry, not trying to hijack the thread

Zac.St.Jules wrote: From what I understand, the blades that come with the force alloy are the drytooling blade, and the ones that come with the masters are the ice? Im sorry, not trying to hijack the thread

yes, go on the liberty mountain website and you can figure it out there

Been running a set of Krunkonogi PN0As (nomic ice picks) "standard geo" THESE PICKS ARE SO CHOICE! And the company is really on point within 10 days they were at the door.

So I decided against getting the Krukonogi picks for myself: for the time and money spent getting new tools and picks, it was better just to make everything myself. That said, I did get to play with a friend's drytool picks. The Krukonogi alloy was quick to work with on the grinder; I didn't try using a file. Using a 10" contact wheel, I removed the notches on the spine, beveled the teeth, put in a swedge grind, and put a hollow distal taper into the last third of the pick. Finished everything up with a Scotchbrite belt.

Should be a competent mixed tool now, rather than a dedicated drytool pick.

Dang, very nice handiwork

Now you can order krukonogi picks and gear in US shop: krukonogi.us

Kate Hopkins wrote: Now you can order krukonogi picks and gear in US shop: krukonogi.us

AH Nice!!! Bout time!

Interesting. We've been supplying them for a year or so. Wonder if they're inventory is actually state side. ​

https://www.tcrockandice.com/store/​​​

Xam wrote: It has been said before but the armour steel is pretty easy to work with a grinder. I purchased two pairs of the points as replacements for my Lynx points, as they were cheaper than petzl at the time. 5 min on a grinder and I was able to camfer the points to a pretty good edge. I assume you could do the same with the picks if you were so inclined.

Ive been told that putting hardened steel on a grinder will cause it to lose its temper.

Dan Hoban wrote:

Ive been told that putting hardened steel on a grinder will cause it to lose its temper.

You just need to keep the metal from overheating, dipping it in water after each pass, not let the metal just rub on the wheel.

I had the good fortune of living in Moscow for a couple of years, cruising the small mountain shops was always fun.
I came across the Krokonogi picks, along with some of their other gear, and you could just tell that their picks were superior.
They make three different picks for the Cobras, so you decide how aggressive you want to go.
In terms of ordering you do have a couple of other options besides directly from the company.
Rock and Resole in Boulder now carries some of their picks, and Krokonogi US which I believe is somewhere in Washington.
Their picks have been called game changers, and I tend to agree.
Mario

Just got myself a pair of their PGM00 pure ice picks. Ordered from the https://pro-ice.equipment distributor in Kazakhstan and had no issues with the process.
What I wanted to note here FYI is that the pick specs seem to differ on different distributors' sites:

• Pro Ice says it's 105g
• Verti Call says it's 123g

My scales show exactly 130g, which is exactly the same as Grivel's Katana Ice pick with its 2 spacers.

The factory BD picks are pretty good for climbing ice. The Kruk picks aren’t an improvement in my opinion. They’re thicker and steeper angle so they don’t climb easy/intermediate ice very well. They also get stuck pretty easy. If you line up the reparto force alloys next to them they have the same angle to kinda show how steep. The alloy has Kruk picks as well though.

I’d say if you need to replace your current picks and wanna try something more aggressive, and they’re not ridiculously priced cause they’re hard to get, buy em and try em. But the factory ones climb ice really nice on cobras. Kruk was easy to deal with when I bought em  they took PayPal so that was fine. They claim armor steel and I’d say pretty tough but not like BDs old armasteel titan picks  (I think that’s what I remember them being called)

correct also for the alloys.  master was for ice and force for dry tooling. The early gens were 3mm pick spacing for the master and 4/5mm for the force. Later gens had 4/5mm spaced picks and used a spacer for the ice blades and the later gens had a removable pommel that was an aftermarket piece but was never available