Things climbing-related that annoy you

Surface shitters and poop on route :(

For that matter horse biscuits on the trails, too, from the pack/park service animals.  Bag that shit up, toss it in the woods. Cant we keep the wild clean?

phylp phylp wrote:

I won’t make a grade suggestion unless I have led something without a fall. Even then, if I know something was harder for me because of my height, I will not suggest a different grade, because I am not “average” climber height. If something was harder or easier for me because of my small hands, I won’t enter a grade  because I do not have “average” hand size.  This is what comments are for. 

Agreed.  I think in general, though, there is a dearth of grade submissions on MP.  I see a lot of routes that have dozens of ticks (and sends) and only a handful of grade suggestions.  If someone sent it clean (and stayed on route), in general it'd be nice to know their opinion.  It's hard to get a crowd-sourced rating if the crowd doesn't participate.

+1 for ticks as a climbing log.  It's easy and convenient and I find it fun to look back at my "timeline" of climbing I've done.

Using the term "bomber" to describe literally any trad placement or the most mediocre placement of all time.

Stiles wrote:

Surface shitters and poop on route :(

Add to that, people that pee in cracks instead of on an open face to evaporate, and people that stuff garbage or shit in cracks on a wall.

Stiles wrote:

Specialized 'light and fast' equipment being a necessity to do anything.  Climbers used to be strong and proud.  

I feel this even more in skiing than in climbing. Yes, take weight and other specs into account when you buy gear but some people try to buy their way through skill/fitness barriers and that's all they talk about. I know several beginner to intermediate climbers/skiiers who have 5x the gear they need... and they still aren't good. Maybe stick with one set for a while until you improve, then start messing with variables? At worst you'll save a bunch of money you can spend on trips. 

Sean Tuttle wrote:

I know, same here, brother.  My balls are so big I can’t rip five niners without a pull from my whizzy.  

Might want to get that checked. Testicles are known to sometimes harbor cysts. ;)

K Go wrote:

I feel this even more in skiing than in climbing. Yes, take weight and other specs into account when you buy gear but some people try to buy their way through skill/fitness barriers and that's all they talk about. I know several beginner to intermediate climbers/skiiers who have 5x the gear they need... and they still aren't good. Maybe stick with one set for a while until you improve, then start messing with variables? At worst you'll save a bunch of money you can spend on trips. 

weak skiers who are also "back country snobs"..... mostly a So. Cal. phenomenon...... go put in some time (years) on the hill and build your skills

Sean Tuttle wrote:

Compressed pack horse feed aka “cake”, cubes, etc. are certified weed free and break down no differently than any other biological material and cause zero harm to the environment.   If you want nature’s floor in your favorite national park to look like humans were never there, maybe try a different planet.   Livestock are going to continue to be used in the backcountry out of necessity and cleaning crumbs for nitpicky climbers isn’t part of the mission.  

But they’re still an annoyance. 

Jay Crew wrote:

weak skiers who are also "back country snobs"..... mostly a So. Cal. phenomenon...... go put in some time (years) on the hill and build your skills

I learned that in Tahoe.  Still suck, still only tele, still only BC, still get excited and spray above my ability.  But my gear is from 2004 and clapped. 

Something that annoys me about climbing:  Partners bailing to go skiing.

Caleb wrote:

Something that annoys me about climbing:  Partners bailing to go skiing.

Bro the pow only lasts a few hours- the Rocks will still be thier when die. 

M M wrote:

It doesn't change the rock or your own ability, it's basically all in your head. I typically climb better on lead so maybe it's just my own experience.

I'm gonna go camming today!

Cam it up, dude!

When people throw fits on route because they can't pull a move/feel like they should be climbing harder/route is too hard etc. Like, dawg I think this is supposed to be fun.

Some one down grading a route that they two hung. 

Recently I was helping a  nice enough women do a route by giving her play by play beta on it. After getting to the anchor she sort of asked my permission to count it as a tick. There were six bolts and she had weighted every one of them, some of them multiple times. I told her that she could do whatever she liked but I only count an accent when I don't weight any gear. Of course I'm a climber who was in his hay days in the 70s and 80s so I've got old fashioned ideas. 

Folks who throw a fit after you point out that their method of belaying with the Grigri could be better.

Camp Counselor Carl wrote:

Folks who throw a fit after you point out that their method of belaying with the Grigri could be better.

Climbing things that annoy me are when people critique my method of belaying....

Camp Counselor Carl wrote:

Folks who throw a fit after you point out that their method of belaying with the Grigri could be better.

Beating the dead horse really annoys me...

x15x15 wrote:

Beating the dead horse really annoys me...

It's mutual 

Camp Counselor Carl wrote:

Folks who throw a fit after you point out that their method of belaying with the Grigri could be better.

Folks that offer unsolicited critiques or “best practice” lectures over minor differences.

But also, folks who genuinely suck at belaying with a grigri.  

Unrelated:  The Movement Boulder parking lot.

Caleb wrote:
Unrelated:  The Movement Boulder parking lot.

Fantasy: Movement buys the demolished site next door and expands their facility by 100%. Adds a couple of floors of housing above and underground parking below.

Annoyance: They didn't.