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Greedy Entrepreneur Trying to Start Climbing Business

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Thomas Lowell · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2025 · Points: 0

Business major at T5 school and former degenerate dirtbag here. Looking to get filthy rich so I can look down on you all. Btw I'm also mentally handicapped. In all seriousness though, I'm looking to collect some data on the main pain-points of full-time/dirtbag climbers. Please PM or reply with your top 5 to support a young entrepreneur. Trolling welcome.

JaredG · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 17

Dirtbags make for lousy customers.

PWZ · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 0

ClimbingOn · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 0
Thomas Lowellwrote:

the main pain-points of full-time/dirtbag climbers.

Money. Primarily money. Almost entirely money. If you can find a way to give dirtbag climbers money, they will be happy. Trying to make money off of dirtbag climbers...next to impossible.

The Traddest Dad · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 0

I never dirtbagged, but everyone I know who dirtbagged complained of loneliness.

Chris McCandless' last insight: "Happiness only real when shared"

Thomas Lowell · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2025 · Points: 0
ClimbingOnwrote:

Money. Primarily money. Almost entirely money. If you can find a way to give dirtbag climbers money, they will be happy. Trying to make money off of dirtbag climbers...next to impossible.

Interesting. who else feels this way?

Zach C · · Vermont · Joined Jun 2019 · Points: 20
Thomas Lowellwrote:

Interesting. who else feels this way?

It’s true. A can of Fancy Feast costs almost as much as tuna fish. How are we supposed to get by?

WF WF51 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2020 · Points: 0

This endless yammering about dirtbags - in the group of people who climb. Jesus. 

Thomas Lowell · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2025 · Points: 0
WF WF51wrote:

This endless yammering about dirtbags - in the group of people who climb. Jesus. 

Do you prefer the term scumbags?

Jay Anderson · · Cupertino, CA · Joined May 2018 · Points: 0

Business major looking to get rich off of people trying to survive with minimal funds.  Maybe pay more attention in class...

Cherokee Nunes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2015 · Points: 0

A duffel zipper that doesn't leak or break, easy to use and never snags, ever.

A remote control rope untier.

Eliminate the need for chalk - replace with real courage, in a sack.

A rock shoe with adjustable and programmable stiffness.

Gecko-resoles

A solar sunhat

Recycleable, organic propane canisters

A backpack that moves like your spine

Here's one - a wateproof, breathable jacket. Maybe you can be the one who finally does it?

Rich Ludwig · · Kayenta, AZ · Joined May 2015 · Points: 4

If I climb a lot both elbows hurt. My left knee and ankle are shot, so those pain-points are a given. Then there's the low-back pain-point, which becomes bearable 2 - 3 hours after I wake up depending on temperature. Those are my top 5, otherwise, I'm good to go . . .

Jay Crew · · Apple Valley CA, · Joined Feb 2018 · Points: 8,901
Thomas Lowellwrote:Looking to get filthy rich so I can look down on you all. 

Invest in crypto..... XRP

Colonel Mustard · · Sacramento, CA · Joined Sep 2005 · Points: 1,257

Apparently it’s serially begging women for dates at your van while planning climbs way above your pay grade? Not sure how you monetize that.

Desert Rock Sports · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Aug 2019 · Points: 2

I hear a lot of climbers don't like the Bishop gym for some reason... maybe make something better?

M1 H1 · · Boulder ish · Joined Dec 2024 · Points: 0

AR Belay glasses that enhance the butt

WF WF51 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2020 · Points: 0

Start a business school?

Tony Danza · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2024 · Points: 5
The Traddest Dadwrote:

I never dirtbagged, but everyone I know who dirtbagged complained of loneliness.

Chris McCandless' last insight: "Happiness only real when shared"

Where were they dirtbagging, Iowa? Given how many vans there are at the crags how could anyone be lonely? Not joking, is there a dearth of people to hang with in Yosemite and the Creek?

Luke Lalor · · Bellevue, WA · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 10
Tony Danzawrote:

Where were they dirtbagging, Iowa? Given how many vans there are at the crags how could anyone be lonely? Not joking, is there a dearth of people to hang with in Yosemite and the Creek?

Being surrounded by people you have known for two weeks gets old quick.

Thomas Lowell · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2025 · Points: 0
Tony Danzawrote:

Where were they dirtbagging, Iowa? Given how many vans there are at the crags how could anyone be lonely? Not joking, is there a dearth of people to hang with in Yosemite and the Creek?

That's what I've noticed too. In the Red, it was always incredibly social. But the money problem is real. I wonder if people would be interested in a seasonal staffing agency?

jakob miller · · riverside county CA · Joined May 2024 · Points: 25

you could still monetize/motivate people who have next to no money by creating a super strong dependency in them on a product you're making/selling. people can be super resourceful when they NEED something.

i think with an impoverished demographic the key would initially be giving out your service for free, and then when they want/need more, you start charging after demand is high

national parks camping, traveling, moving around, logistically would lend itself well to avoiding competition/reaching more people, and i think there's a lot of room to grow if you just go around different climbing hotspots and make some friends in the international climbing community.  source products from cheap locations selling them at higher markup where demand is different due to geography demographics etc  like Mexico 

give whatever youre selling out for free initially to get people hooked, and then just basic business 101 networking and scaling of operations 

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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