Things climbing-related that annoy you

NaCl - wrote:

Maybe don't modify it all? 

Don’t be salty…

Clip-stick instead of Stick-Clip

Thomas Worsham wrote:

Clip-stick instead of Stick-Clip

what if they use a clip-stick to make a stick-clip?

Jay Crew wrote:

what if they use a clip-stick to make a stick-clip?

Not climbing related but jumping rope > jump roping

The terms: weak sauce, proud, the ditch

Adam W wrote:

Constantly having to hear about “The Red” and “Red rocks”

I think I actually like Red Rocks better than Red Rock.

Maybe it was mentioned earlier, I didn't read every post.

One move wonder routes.  Routes that otherwise would be 5.5 but right in the middle is a tough move totally out of character with the rest of the climb.  This is more of a route developing complaint.  Anytime we are working on a new area there is always that one guy, or girl, who wants to bolt a line like that.  Drives me nuts.  

Three bolt “sport climbs” with massive chain anchors.
Even more annoying… another exact same climb - 4 feet left of it.

Zero taste 

Kevin Mokracek wrote:

Maybe it was mentioned earlier, I didn't read every post.

One move wonder routes.  Routes that otherwise would be 5.5 but right in the middle is a tough move totally out of character with the rest of the climb.  This is more of a route developing complaint.  Anytime we are working on a new area there is always that one guy, or girl, who wants to bolt a line like that.  Drives me nuts.  

Outdoors? Doesn't 'geology' have something to do with that? This describes a good percentage of the routes at the Gunks---which, despite this, what you consider to be a, defect, are usually a blast to climb.

Alan Rubin wrote:

Outdoors? Doesn't 'geology' have something to do with that? This describes a good percentage of the routes at the Gunks---which, despite this, what you consider to be a, defect, are usually a blast to climb.

I just don't like one move wonder climbs, especially if the developer gos out of the way to make you climb it when a more natural logical way exists.  

Climbers.

Sometimes when I'm at the gym packing up to go home I see a newbie with gym hire shoes on struggling on a boulder problem so I stop packing up, put my shoes back on and go and do three laps of it without touching the ground just to show them that even an old man can do it gee I find me annoying...

People who "tick" routes on MP that have not truly done it clean.  If you look at the ticks on a particular route on MP, you'll see people having the route ticked and in the notes you see "hung 3 times" or some other note that indicates that while they might have gotten up that particular route, they have not done it free.  I appreciate the honesty but to be completely honest, you haven't done a climb if you hung.  

Since we are on the subject of "Ticks", I can't stand tick marks all over the rock.  Why can't people just study the rock and remember the features, crystals or other features so you can lunge to that hold.  It is an eyesore and we can do better with our ethics.  At the very least, if you are someone who tick marks holds, brush off the tick mark when you're done.

William Leventhal wrote:

People who "tick" routes on MP that have not truly done it clean.  If you look at the ticks on a particular route on MP, you'll see people having the route ticked and in the notes you see "hung 3 times" or some other note that indicates that while they might have gotten up that particular route, they have not done it free.  I appreciate the honesty but to be completely honest, you haven't done a climb if you hung.  

Since we are on the subject of "Ticks", I can't stand tick marks all over the rock.  Why can't people just study the rock and remember the features, crystals or other features so you can lunge to that hold.  It is an eyesore and we can do better with our ethics.  At the very least, if you are someone who tick marks holds, brush off the tick mark when you're done.

Right, but you can tick a route and not say that you redpointed or onsighted it. A lot of people use MP as their climbing journal essentially, and thus need to tick their non-sends to track their progress. It seems you use MP differently to most and frustrated that others use it differently to you? If ticks were only meant for sends then MP wouldn't provide non-send tick options. 

With regards to chalk ticks I use them sometimes as I struggle enormously with memorization and can't remember anything. I do, however, always brush my ticks. Hard agree that leaving them is poor form. 

Rowdy crag dogs.  More specifically, their owners.  I'd be less annoyed if the dog would harness up and top rope some 5.8s.  

Okay, final answer: Crag dogs that don't even climb 5.8

William Leventhal wrote:

Since we are on the subject of "Ticks", I can't stand tick marks all over the rock.  Why can't people just study the rock and remember the features, crystals or other features so you can lunge to that hold.  It is an eyesore and we can do better with our ethics.  At the very least, if you are someone who tick marks holds, brush off the tick mark when you're done.

Lol, I never use tick marks and I am cursed with horrible beta memory.  I can climb the same climb 5 times and do it different every time.  Its actually kinda nice to feel like its a new climb every time lol.

This is silly because it doesn't even affect me, but the partner seeking posts where people don't provide any background as to their grade/experience/etc. and their profile doesn't have anything helpful either. Especially the posts where people are looking for alpine climbing partners but make no mention of their prior experience.

Ricky Harline wrote:

Right, but you can tick a route and not say that you redpointed or onsighted it. A lot of people use MP as their climbing journal essentially, and thus need to tick their non-sends to track their progress. It seems you use MP differently to most and frustrated that others use it differently to you? If ticks were only meant for sends then MP wouldn't provide non-send tick options. 

With regards to chalk ticks I use them sometimes as I struggle enormously with memorization and can't remember anything. I do, however, always brush my ticks. Hard agree that leaving them is poor form. 

So perhaps MP should have a different category of achievement where you can have attempted a route but not yet "ticked" it?  In my way of thinking, ticking a route means you did it. Just because you have tried a climb doesn't mean you get to tick it.   I realize it's largely a question of semantics but if people need to quantify their exploits, perhaps they should keep a personal journal.  

William Leventhal wrote:

People who "tick" routes on MP that have not truly done it clean.  If you look at the ticks on a particular route on MP, you'll see people having the route ticked and in the notes you see "hung 3 times" or some other note that indicates that while they might have gotten up that particular route, they have not done it free.  I appreciate the honesty but to be completely honest, you haven't done a climb if you hung. 

If only there was a way to differentiate how you climbed a route when you tick it. Oh wait…

I use the MP tick feature more like a log of climbs I’ve done. Just because a route is ticked doesn’t mean I’ve sent it but when I redpoint it I will give it a redpoint tick.