Help a Gumby Out

Anyone have an opinion on areas in the below US states:

Arizona-?

Colorado- ?

New York- ?

Tennessee- ?

Texas-?

Virginia- ?

Wyoming- ?

It might help if you would clarify specifically what you are after. Trad? Sport? Multipitch? Bouldering? Limestone? Basalt? Sandstone? Granite? Hard routes? Easy routes? Remote adventure climbing? Alpine climbing? Short approach? Longer approach? That way folks can ante up with more worthwhile answers.

I think Arizona is pretty cool, sometimes it's hot.

Yes, all of those states have area.  Texas has the most area of the states you list.  Alaska has the most area of any state in the US.

Tennessee, for sure.

Wow, Alaska is big area

Colorado and Wyoming are the most rectangular areas in your list.

Joe Boulderswrote:

Anyone have an opinion on areas in the below US states:

Arizona-?

Colorado- ?

New York- ?

Tennessee- ?

Texas-?

Virginia- ?

Wyoming- ?

Definitely Texas for all the reasons you listed and then some.  

Tennessee takes up a lot more area than you might think. Not the state, but the word. All those double letters make for a nice long word. Have you considered Mississippi?

New York is one of only 10 states that are 2 words, and the only one in the list. Maybe consider other states that have more than one word? 

Forget the above snarky answers. To answer your question about areas within those states, yes, there are areas within each of those states. Some are good areas and some are not as good areas. To find more areas, the formula is length x width, but that changes when you go 3d - then it's L x W x H. And it's weirder once you take odd shapes, like those of states. 

But overall, for clarity - the areas within those states are definitely areas. Take it or leave it. 

EMFR Iwrote:

To find more areas, the formula is length x width, but that changes when you go 3d - then it's L x W x H.

OP is asking about areas and you're confusing him with volumes? Leave those to the indoor boulderers, thank you very much

EMFR Iwrote:

Forget the above snarky answers. To answer your question about areas within those states, yes, there are areas within each of those states. Some are good areas and some are not as good areas. To find more areas, the formula is length x width, but that changes when you go 3d - then it's L x W x H. And it's weirder once you take odd shapes, like those of states. 

But overall, for clarity - the areas within those states are definitely areas. Take it or leave it. 

If we are able to approximate the shape of the states' borders with a formula, then we can use integration to find the area. But I'm not sure how to come up with the formula representing the borders. For that reason, my 2c is to go with the more rectangular states where LxW will give you a decent approximation.

Just to be clear, none of these states are below US states. These are states in the US. To my knowledge most of them have areas, but that should be fact checked. Hoping others have insight into this.

Nathan Halsteadwrote:

New York is one of only 10 states that are 2 words, and the only one in the list. Maybe consider other states that have more than one word? 

THIS!!!!!!

Braxton Francomwrote:

Just to be clear, none of these states are below US states. These are states in the US. To my knowledge most of them have areas, but that should be fact checked. Hoping others have insight into this.

Well, a handful of them are south of other US states. But you are correct in the fact that none are under another state. Just want to be clear with how we are describing states. I second double checking that they have area, that's important information. 

Sep M wrote:

See this is why you should never ask questions on MP. Instead of just a straight up answer to what you want to know, you’ll get yahoos like EMFR above.

For the record, L x W x H will give you volume, not surface area. Total noob move right there. If OP wants a quality answer to their important question, I think they should consider cross posting in a geography forum.

I mean, of course you're right. But isn't volume a version of area? I'm not a geometrist, so to me it's layman semantics. And I've never been called a yahoo before so thanks for that one. 

Joe, I figured this might happen… pretty humorous and imaginative responses so far. I tip my hat. If you are really after solid info (your account seems real), focus your question a bit more as I mentioned above. There are good folks here who are more than willing to help as long as the question is clear (and you have done at least a little research on your own beforehand). I’m standing by with Arizona information… (maybe… depends on the actual info needed).

I don’t think any has mentioned Virginia yet.  I hear there is a lot of virgin rock there, hence the name 

This thread has delivered more than I expected.

Well done!

Zay in Monterey wrote:

Bunch of snarky unhelpful answers here, OP. To actually answer your question,

Arizona: 113,998

Colorado: 104,185

New York: 302.6

Tennessee: 42,181

Texas: 268,597

Virginia: 42,775

Wyoming: 97,813

*all values in square miles

Excellent answer.  Just for perspective, I'm bringing Alaska back to the thread.  663,268 sq. miles.  2.5x Texas.  Clearly, if one is seeking area, AK is the state!