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Booty gear available Pine Creek

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phylp phylp · · Upland · Joined May 2015 · Points: 1,142

On Thur 5/2 we got a quite new metolius 00 cam stuck on Sweetie in the Gold Wall area. I wasn’t using nuts so did not have a nut tool to work on it. It’s about 15 feet below the very top bolt, on the arete.
I believe abandoned gear is booty, help yourself to it if you’re so inclined.

Edited to say, I can’t remember the last time I abandoned a piece of stuck gear, has to be at least 25 years, if not more,  so if I seem casual about losing it, I’m just averaging out the cost over a very long time. 

Max McLenithan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2020 · Points: 20

Booty has been snatched. 

phylp phylp · · Upland · Joined May 2015 · Points: 1,142
Max McLenithanwrote:

Booty has been snatched. 

Excellent! Enjoy!

Mike Arechiga · · Oakhurst, CA · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 5,445

Hi all, these days with all the climbing stuff I find at the base of crags and in the rock, shoes, clothe, gear, water bottles, REI gear tags.... ect I do not call it booty anymore i call it litter!!! For a user group that is supposed to be sooo eco friendly and the ambassadors of the outdoor sport activity world (take only pictures and leave only foot prints) we are sure trashing our beloved climbing areas these days!!! LOL :-) happy climbing Mike A.

Kevin Mokracek · · Burbank · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 378

My sentiments exactly about booty.  Years ago I bailed off Mithral Dihedral when a thunder storm caught us a little more than mid route.  I was only using cams and left quite a few during the bail.   When I got down to Lone Pine I went into the mountain shop and told the guy behind the counter that there was a few hundred bucks worth of cams on Mithral, if he or anyone else wanted them they were free to take them.  If I purposefully leave gear behind I am doing it with the idea that someone is going to get some free gear.  Its part of the game.

Mei pronounced as May · · Bay Area, but not in SF · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 177
phylp phylpwrote:

I wasn’t using nuts so did not have a nut tool to work on it....

I am very anti-nuts (my regular partner can attest to this), but I always carry a nut tool with me and encourage (if not request) my partner to do the same.  My nut tool probably has freed more "stuck" cams than nuts. Plus, it might just be the tool that I would need in order to get every bit of food out of that deep pouch, or, with the built-in knife, cut the rope that my partner is hanging on. I remember many years ago on an aid climb (bolt ladder), despite top stepping in the ladder, I couldn't reach the next bolt. It was the nut tool that saved the day -- it allowed me to steady myself with it hooking the bolt hanger above while stepping on the bolt hanger below for that extra few inches. My nut tool is my security blanket. :) 

Anna Brown · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 8,113

Mike,
Where are you climbing? I climb throughout New Mexico and have never felt our climbing areas here are trashed. I also don’t see that while climbing at Red Rock which is crazy busy unless it’s the area immediately around the parking lots which gets much more pressure from non-climbers. 

M L · · Sonora, CA · Joined Apr 2007 · Points: 165
Mike Arechigawrote:

Hi all, these days with all the climbing stuff I find at the base of crags and in the rock, shoes, clothe, gear, water bottles, REI gear tags.... ect I do not call it booty anymore i call it litter!!! For a user group that is supposed to be sooo eco friendly and the ambassadors of the outdoor sport activity world (take only pictures and leave only foot prints) we are sure trashing our beloved climbing areas these days!!! LOL :-) happy climbing Mike A.

Thanks for the completely unrelated rant

phylp phylp · · Upland · Joined May 2015 · Points: 1,142
M Lwrote:

Thanks for the completely unrelated rant

I’m probably as Old Skool as Mike A is, but I didn’t think a post entitled “Litter available Pine Creek” would attract the response I was looking for. Plus calling a brand new $75 piece of gear “litter” strikes me as oddly entitled.
I am happy the guy who cleaned up my litter was able to get it unstuck. 

Anna Brown · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 8,113

I’d love to know how Max got the cam unstuck. Can you tell us how? I assume it was Max who retrieved it.

Cosmic Hotdog · · California · Joined Sep 2019 · Points: 377
Anna Brownwrote:

I’d love to know how Max got the cam unstuck. Can you tell us how? I assume it was Max who retrieved it.

Presumably carried a nut tool and used it. 

Max McLenithan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2020 · Points: 20
Anna Brownwrote:

I’d love to know how Max got the cam unstuck. Can you tell us how? I assume it was Max who retrieved it.

If I know I’m going on a booty mission, I carry a long handled flathead screwdriver, it’s much better for getting at the lobes and makes light work out of tight and awkward placements. 

Anna Brown · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 8,113

That’s a great idea Max. We found a brand new #6 on the 3rd pitch of Tunnel Vision at Red Rock last month. I had one lobe moving but just couldn’t get it out. A long screwdriver would probably have done the trick.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Northern California
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