Have a chance to move to LA. How's the climbing?

Li Huwrote:

Getting stuck on the 805/5 isn’t much fun in SD either. 3 miles in 40 minutes   

Sucks to suck, getting stuck in traffic is super fun in my town.

Li Huwrote:

Getting stuck on the 805/5 isn’t much fun in SD either. 3 miles in 40 minutes   

805 5 traffic is all from or to LA. Same time I took that screenshot most of so cal was all green. Critical thinking reasoning skills help. I advise not moving to any big cities in California. The indoor climbing which is all you’ll be doing doesn’t make up for the downside.

Andrew Ricewrote:

Lol. Saturday during a rainstorm with the Grammy's happening downtown. Oh, my, traffic! 

Wasn’t during a rainstorm and Grammys is insignificant in a metro area of ten million. Your industry bias and focus is showing Andy.

Gene Bankswrote:

You are like a broken record. We get it. You don't like SoCal. Many of us like it here and are able to make it work for us just fine. 

No most hate it and complain daily. And don’t urge people to move there to wait in line to indoor climb. Stoney point isn’t  worth moving to LA. 

I never understood why people in L.A. constantly complain about traffic. Yes, it sucks, but complaining won't make it better. Just put on some good music and consider it 'me' time.

It's the price of admission for living here. If you don't like it, get the fuck out. Simple. 

The OP needs to know that L.A. is NOT a good place to live if you want easy access to great climbing. However, if you're cool with driving a few hours (or more), and you can deal with daily traffic without constantly complaining like a moron, then you'll do fine here.

Jeff Jwrote:

I never understood why people in L.A. constantly complain about traffic. Yes, it sucks, but complaining won't make it better. Just put on some good music and consider it 'me' time.

Even better question is why someone who lives in San Diego spends all his time complaining about LA traffic... Agree that people should just put on music or a podcast and enjoy. Of course, a lot of people make unfortunate choices about living way out in the burbs and working someplace somewhere 30 miles away.

Andrew Ricewrote:

Even better question is why someone who lives in San Diego spends all his time complaining about LA traffic... Agree that people should just put on music or a podcast and enjoy. Of course, a lot of people make unfortunate choices about living way out in the burbs and working someplace somewhere 30 miles away.

When I lived in the Bay Area, we lived near SFO, so that my husband and I could split the difference between his job, which was south on the Peninsula, and my job. which was 40 miles NE across the bridge into Richmond.  My commute was typically an hour or a little more, one way. It never bothered me.  I listened to books on CD or thought about how I was going to solve problems at work.  My life was so busy, this was the only time I had to "read".  All this bother and pages and pages of blather and drivel about traffic time. All major cities have traffic.  Lots of people choose commutes over proximity because they like suburban life.  They fully understand the traffic trade-offs.  Other people choose city life and understand the tradeoffs for traffic as a weekend warrior.  Other people can't stomach either city or suburbs and figure out a way to make it work living in a more rural environment.  Is all this really news to anybody?

But…How’s the climbing?

What a funny hamster wheel this thread is.

Diego Climberwrote:

Stoney point isn’t  worth moving to LA. 

Blasphemy!!+

When the merit of a place is based upon how long it takes to leave . . . 

Well I don't know.

phylp phylpwrote:

When I lived in the Bay Area, we lived near SFO, so that my husband and I could split the difference between his job, which was south on the Peninsula, and my job. which was 40 miles NE across the bridge into Richmond.  My commute was typically an hour or a little more, one way. It never bothered me.  I listened to books on CD or thought about how I was going to solve problems at work.  My life was so busy, this was the only time I had to "read".  All this bother and pages and pages of blather and drivel about traffic time. All major cities have traffic.  Lots of people choose commutes over proximity because they like suburban life.  They fully understand the traffic trade-offs.  Other people choose city life and understand the tradeoffs for traffic as a weekend warrior.  Other people can't stomach either city or suburbs and figure out a way to make it work living in a more rural environment.  Is all this really news to anybody?

Exactly, unless in a hurry to get somewhere, most people simply “get used to it”.

I believe that the pages of “blather” is simply someone playing the contrarian, then trying to support his point by trolling others into an argument so he can continue to write pages.  

This is coming from someone who can remote work most of the time, though. I’ve not enough skin in this game to be too bothered.

Colonel Mustardwrote:

But…How’s the climbing?

Great, I love climbing plastic holds!   

What a funny hamster wheel this thread is.

Trolling behaviour does this to a thread.   

Li Huwrote:

Great, I love climbing plastic holds!   

Trolling behaviour does this to a thread.   

Plastic is good!

So is trolling though.

x15x15wrote:

Blasphemy!!+

Disagree. While Stoney Point is a legendary area for this sport, it's really not all that great. There are a few good lines, but most of it is super polished. Moreover, the strata of society in that area of the valley is mostly poor hispanics and washed-up porn stars, so there's a lot of riff-raff hanging around, dumping trash, and tagging the rock.

San Diego Traffic Jam. 

Jeff Jwrote:

Disagree. While Stoney Point is a legendary area for this sport, it's really not all that great. There are a few good lines, but most of it is super polished. Moreover, the strata of society in that area of the valley is mostly poor hispanics and washed-up porn stars, so there's a lot of riff-raff hanging around, dumping trash, and tagging the rock.

What??? No way... btw, I was being sarcastic in this land of sarcasm...

Jeff Jwrote:

Disagree. While Stoney Point is a legendary area for this sport, it's really not all that great. There are a few good lines, but most of it is super polished. Moreover, the strata of society in that area of the valley is mostly poor hispanics and washed-up porn stars, so there's a lot of riff-raff hanging around, dumping trash, and tagging the rock.

We have a great community at Stoney. If you want to learn how to climb rocks just keep coming out.
The trash? I don’t know about that, at one time the place was a dumping ground. Today it’s pretty picked up. The “poor hispanics” are also learning to climb. Stoney has a long history of helping folks without $$$ get shoes and pads. So many kids from the Valley have wandered out there and discovered a whole new world they never imagined existed.

Guy Keeseewrote:

We have a great community at Stoney. If you want to learn how to climb rocks just keep coming out.
The trash? I don’t know about that, at one time the place was a dumping ground. Today it’s pretty picked up. The “poor hispanics” are also learning to climb. Stoney has a long history of helping folks without $$$ get shoes and pads. So many kids from the Valley have wandered out there and discovered a whole new world they never imagined existed.

Shout out to Guy and all his hard work as the "Steward of Stoney"™ and also for building community and outreach. Well done!

Thanks Mike!

Most people I find climbing wet rock at Stoney are just ignorant of how fragile it can be when wet. They have never touched anything except plastic or nothing. I find most are very appreciative for the education. I show them alternatives on MP and they start going there. I still remember how badly I needed to go climbing- needed it badly- when I was just starting out.
I remember the rules the “old dads” taught me about teaching the sport to others- it’s our responsibility to make them safe and show them the ropes.
Thank you for the kind words.

Oh yeah… Stony is as wet as an old sponge left out in the rain right now. Please don’t climb give it time. 

Always great to hear from the Mayor!