New and Experienced Climbers Over 50 #26

Russ Wallingwrote:

I know that house.  Is that where you are staying?

Yep. Vrbo. 

Colden Darkwrote:

Yep. Vrbo. 

Nice house.  Right by Indian Cove for climbing.  Dirt roads all around for biking.  Cool spot.

Nick way to get after it. Still a bit early for me to ice climb. Hoping it stays cold after this rain. As always cool pictures. 

I participated in a survey with Colorado's health dept. yesterday. One of the questions was "how many times in the last year have you fallen?" I'm thinking, 'surely I shouldn't count climbing falls'. I did answer "once" but even that was on talus so I'm pretty certain that that was not the type of fall that they are looking for.

I got up off the couch a few weeks ago and my foot was asleep. I hopped around on one foot a for a bit untill my sock slipped on the floor at which point I went henie over teakettle landing on the antique coffee table which exploded.  after regaining me senses and the feeling in my foot it was out to the shop for a session with tight bond ll and finish screws.. Coffee table seems to have made a full recovery. 

Victor Creazziwrote:

I participated in a survey with Colorado's health dept. yesterday. One of the questions was "how many times in the last year have you fallen?" I'm thinking, 'surely I shouldn't count climbing falls'. I did answer "once" but even that was on talus so I'm pretty certain that that was not the type of fall that they are looking for.

That about sums it up Victor!  Any visit with Kaiser these days One of the questions the nurse asks is “have you fallen within the last month?“.  
in fact, all the questions pre-suppose a person who is on their way out – – they are just trying to figure out when and how you’re going!

Nick Goldsmithwrote:

I got up off the couch a few weeks ago and my foot was asleep. I hopped around on one foot a for a bit untill my sock slipped on the floor at which point I went henie over teakettle landing on the antique coffee table which exploded.  after regaining me senses and the feeling in my foot it was out to the shop for a session with tight bond ll and finish screws.. Coffee table seems to have made a full recovery. 

I was a bit concerned for the table.   

Colden - jtbikeshop.com web site says they have rentals. Are you interested in going climbing? If you bring shoes and harness you'd be welcome to join me and friends for low-key cragging. 

Russ Wallingwrote:

Nice house.  Right by Indian Cove for climbing.  Dirt roads all around for biking.  Cool spot.

And Nick, sick pics of your adventures as always - you should use a chainsaw to keep your pond open

Brandt Allenwrote:

Colden - jtbikeshop.com web site says they have rentals. Are you interested in going climbing? If you bring shoes and harness you'd be welcome to join me and friends for low-key cragging. 

Appreciate the offer, Brandt. I’ll be hanging with my 3 (early 20s) sons and their girlfriends so we may well see you out there.

K Mwrote:

It's unbelievably easy to become unbalanced with repetitive movement. I personally had my patella shift from doing squat movements over time. Took awhile to get it normal.

can you please expand on that? Like how long did it take for the effect to become noticeable, how did you know it was happening, and how did you know that it was due to squat movements (weightlifting or manual labor or what?), and how did you correct it?

I'm curious because I've been doing squats for a long long time, not sure if I'm doing them correctly, and not sure how to tell if I'm doing them correctly.

Girlfriends in their early 20's are especially welcome!

Nick Goldsmithwrote:

the P2 pillar was way too interesting. a literal fck ton of water running just beneath the surface of the ice.

www.facebook.com/1739093256/videos/pcb.10210680111075797/855638769691139 so I bailed again..   I took a cool video of it but can't seem to get it to post... 

Nick, the video isn't available to me at least, probably privacy controlled.

Colden Darkwrote:

My Nat Geo map doesn’t have street names but I put an X where I think it is. Does that seem right to you?

And Nick, sick pics of your adventures as always - you should use a chainsaw to keep your pond open

Yep, it should be right there.  House is only about a year old.  34.12797° N, 116.15764° W

The Google shows a dirt lot, but I assure you there is a house there.  It is not some weird scam to lure cold guys out of the darkness and separate them from their wallet.  If you are going climbing, I can loan you all the stuff if you want to travel light.  Full rack, rope, etc.

dragonswrote:

can you please expand on that? Like how long did it take for the effect to become noticeable, how did you know it was happening, and how did you know that it was due to squat movements (weightlifting or manual labor or what?), and how did you correct it?

I'm curious because I've been doing squats for a long long time, not sure if I'm doing them correctly, and not sure how to tell if I'm doing them correctly.

Mine was caused by bending the knees to lift 50# plus boxes. I'm not sure what changed at the time to create that as it was something I did a lot.

There was some pain and a bit of "locking" that got worse until I could barely walk. A friend who is a orthopedic doctor diagnosed the problem and gave me some exercises to balance the muscles back out. After that I never had a problem again. 

dragonswrote:

can you please expand on that? Like how long did it take for the effect to become noticeable, how did you know it was happening, and how did you know that it was due to squat movements (weightlifting or manual labor or what?), and how did you correct it?

I'm curious because I've been doing squats for a long long time, not sure if I'm doing them correctly, and not sure how to tell if I'm doing them correctly.

I have this, partially, as a consequence of cycling all my life. Probably part genetic/ natural shape of my bone and patella, but partly a muscular imbalance from cycling. I can sometimes feel my patella slip out of place when doing certain movements and I am prone to patellar dislocation. Doing other exercises to strengthen opposing muscles (squats help me) have helped keep my patella where it should be for the most part. But when I go significant lengths of time without doing other exercises, I feel my patella slip more often.

Colden Darkwrote:

I am fleeing the Arctic to spend Xmas in 29 Palms. It’s going to feel like trippy interplanetary travel, I think. Anybody know of a good place to rent bikes (fat, mountain, e?) in the area? Hoping to maximize my vitamin D intake : o )

Most people don't know that in the winter/ fall ,once the sun slips below an altitude of 50 degrees, which occurs between October and March in northern lats . UVB  light, required to make Vitamin D in your skin, cannot get through the atmosphere, even on a clear day. (Which is somewhat of a bummer since the sulphated form of Vit. D is in many ways superior to supplemental/ food sources.)

Exposure to infrared light from the sun, otherwise known as photobiomodulation ,is still going on. ( BTW, if I lived in Alaska I would definitely have a red light lamp.)

Anywho. My first paragraph somehow showed up in italics? Apparently if you delete a photo and then write in that space it'll come out in italics?

 Zounds!!

What an amazing and caring crew this is, I don’t mean to gush, but you guys really inspire me. So many different people, so many different loves of climbing , and yet you’re all in with and for each other. This is not ordinary and a big city!

May I interrupt this regularly scheduled broadcasting to mention Welcome to Joshua Tree? It’s getting less and less likely that I can just walk away forever. It has to be 150 feet at least and that upper head wall is always in the sun early mornings.  

My challenge this morning was to find a right leg only approach, and just sort of drag the left along.  So far so good!

Checking my Compass this morning somehow I had no idea that we were regularly hanging out at 4500 feet.

by the way, I have a great lamp with both infrared and red light and I think it’s doing wonders for inflammation, drug free!

“All I wanna do is have a little fun before I die.”   

Colden. my concern with using a chainsaw on the pond is getting oil in the water. Ax works good for now. if we ever get real winter I might have to switch to a splitting maul...  sorry my video is not opening.. not tech savvy enough to get around the barriers. I would probobly have to put it on you tube first to insert it on MP. 

Nick Goldsmithwrote:

Colden. my concern with using a chainsaw on the pond is getting oil in the water. 

I think I heard somewhere that folks use vegi oil?  Anyhow...there's biodegradable bar tack out there.  Not sure how well it works...

Folks that ice fish use chainsaws upon occasion.  Especially the guys who bow hunt for fish...ha ha.