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Best Non-Overhangs in the Red

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Olivia Pendas · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2020 · Points: 330

Definitely not what the area is known for but the title pretty much speaks for itself. I’m heading to the Red in November and I’m looking for routes that are the exact opposite of the typical steep pumpfest style. Any recs for slabs, vert faces, and weight-on-your-feet climbing would be great! (Ex: climbs similar to Orange Juice, in any grade range)

Jon Winsley · · Oxnard, CA · Joined Aug 2022 · Points: 59

Sport or trad?

nowhere · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 0

There are a couple good 11 aretes at funk rock city called prime directive and eye of the needle.

Hakuna matata at drive by is a fun vertish pitch.

Barb wire is a beautiful12c slab around the corner from Amarillo sunset.

robotic thumb 10b? at chocolate factory is a cool vertish pitch.

J rats back 12a at chocolate factory

But really you should go to the new if that’s your bag. 

Noah Betz · · Beattyville, KY · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 49

Shootin Hot Hugs

Random Precision

Two Women Alone

Kentucky Flu

No Place Like Home

Banshee

Mirage

Knuckle Sauce

Go Easy Billy Clyde

Blaine Hartness · · North Carolina · Joined May 2021 · Points: 126

Karmic Retribution in Inner Sanctum is a fun slab route 

Alan Rader · · Wherever my Van is. · Joined May 2014 · Points: 322

Download the RRC app, select RRG region, Walls, then hit the filter icon and you can choose wall angle.  Select slab, vert or whatever you want. You can filter on grade, type, angle, style, sector, quality. 

brianszero · · Rogers, Ky · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 21

Balance beam and sundial. Nuff said 

Cocoapuffs 1000 · · Columbus, OH · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 50

Soul Ram is a must do IMO.  Also Dave the Dude at the same crag.

Straight Edge is a haul to get to these days but you won't have to wait in line for it.

Swahili Slang and its neighbors.  Also Super Slab, Blank Canvas, Hakuna Matata.  I've heard Evil Emperor is a great vert climb if you want something in the 13- range.

EDIT: The Dainty Butterfly at Chocolate Factory - most of the climb is pumpy, slightly overhung crimping but the well defined crux at the top is delicate and balancy, good footwork needed.

Mad Farm · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined May 2016 · Points: 0
BigCountry · · The High Country · Joined May 2012 · Points: 20

The NRG

Stephen L · · South + Van · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 166

Emerald City had some rad slab pitches. Up on the ledge there’s like five right next to each other. Each was a blast. Catch it after it’s been cleaned up by a rain and the onsight is that much more fun. 

Matt Robinson · · Saint Petersburg, FL · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 15

In no particular order:

  • Brown Eyed Girl
  • Baby Blue Eyes
  • Boltergeist
  • No Place Like Home
  • Diamond in the Rough
  • Ruby Slippers
  • Kentucky Pinstripe
  • October Sky
  • The first half of Twinkie   
Chris Singletary · · Blacksburg, VA · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 1,010

Demon Seed 12c is a bit more on the steeper side for face (especially during the shared start with Dogleg), but the upper headwall where the cruxy climbing is is some of the best face climbing I've ever done

Garrett Schwier · · Tampa, Fl · Joined Oct 2019 · Points: 46

I really enjoyed “Return to Balance”

Amy Zakerski · · Asheville, NC · Joined Sep 2018 · Points: 0

Tweaked unit @ courtesy wall is an all-time favorite 

Pretty much all the very at FRC

Dane B · · Chuff City · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 5
Chris Singletarywrote:

Demon Seed 12c is a...

horrible suggestion for someone seeking non-overhangs due to the start 

nowhere · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 0

What about bob wall is a pretty good vertish sector

Chris Singletary · · Blacksburg, VA · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 1,010
Dane Bwrote:

horrible suggestion for someone seeking non-overhangs due to the start 

I don't agree. I think a face with a bit of (easier) overhang still qualifies as a face. The same as how we would consider a steep pumpfest with 20' of easier face at the start of it to still be overhang. Majority of the route is still vert and it's pretty vert for a RRG climb at that grade.

On that note, its neighbor "No Redemption" is also super classic, and more of a true face climb, but I haven't been on it yet.

Olivia Pendas · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2020 · Points: 330
Chris Singletarywrote:

On that note, its neighbor "No Redemption" is also super classic, and more of a true face climb, but I haven't been on it yet.

I was surprised no one had mentioned No Redemption yet! Definitely want to get on that one. If anyone has any other ideas in the 12+/13- range that would be great too.

Sam D · · Cleveland, OH · Joined Mar 2023 · Points: 0

Try Pogue Ethics at Phantasia! Awesome 5.9 after a small but easy campus section. Just climbed it yesterday and it was super cool

Bailey Nicholson · · Michigan/Virginia · Joined Jun 2023 · Points: 23

Just seconding the New River gorge, those things you described sound like the bread and butter of most NRG climbs.  

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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