Redacted Squad - offensive route names on MP

Years ago a committee was created to correct offensive route names on MP. We still have many route names listed as Redacted. When will this project be completed? What are the next steps?

Gator Pussy V10 forever

Edit: This was a boulder at Pawtuckaway that got redacted, but for some reason a boulder named "General Lee" did not...

They satisfied their guilt trip and have moved on to other knee jerk causes.

Kevin DeWeese wrote:

This Route still exists and has never even reached the "redacted" name change stage despite it being reported through the flagging process in the improve page menu... 

It was shared by an admin so they must be okay with it.

grug gwrote:

Years ago a committee was created to correct offensive route names on MP. We still have many route names listed as Redacted. When will this project be completed? What are the next steps?

At this point, I suspect OnX is trolling for X’s Elon to buy Mountain Project.

Its not cool to leave 100s of route names as redacted indefinitely. 

it wasent cool to redact them in the first place. 

Kevin DeWeese wrote:

I'm assuming an area admin is different from a platform admin. 

https://www.mountainproject.com/name-review-process

Looks like the regional admins help get a new name after a voting process, says it takes a while.

Adam Rwrote:

https://www.mountainproject.com/name-review-process

Looks like the regional admins help get a new name after a voting process by the community, says it takes a while . 

I guess that was announced and I missed it?  Hopefully that process includes simply messaging the person who contributed the route to MP with the redacted name.

I once checked with the submitter of a redacted route name who happened to be the FA.  OnX had never let them know the name was redacted.  And the FA-ist was willing to rename it.  They just had no idea. Makes this all sound like a really hollow effort - or a weird power grab.

I pointed this out at the time but OnX never replied.   And, lol, I can't be bothered with reading the name-review-process.  I don't recall it being sent out for comment.

caesar.saladwrote:

but for some reason a boulder named "General Lee" did not...

Why would anyone get upset about a boulder named after a car?

caesar.salad wrote:

but for some reason a boulder named "General Lee" did not...

Robert Gregorywrote:

Why would anyone get upset about a boulder named after a car?

Insert Roscoe P Coltrane's signature laugh here.

I think the redaction happened when Mp was for sale. OnX seems to not be concerned 

Robert Gregorywrote:

Why would anyone get upset about a boulder named after a car?

you mean a boulder named after a confederate general?

idk, why redact "gator pussy"?

grug gwrote:

Its not cool to leave 100s of route names as redacted indefinitely. 

It's not making them unclimbable so what's the real issue? 

https://www.mountainproject.com/search?q=redacted

If you click the "Improve this page" icon, then the "Route Details" you can see the original names of the routes. In my opinion, many of them are not actually offensive. Mountain project must have flagged a bunch of words, and if the route has those words it was redacted.

There are over 700 routes and boulder problems that were redacted. I honestly have trouble finding ones that are racists, sexist, ableist; although I am SURE some of them are.

So, "Shockley's Ceiling" at the Gunks was changed to "The Ceiling" because William Shockley's views on eugenics were offensive. (I still call it "Shockley's Ceiling")
But, the route next door, "Shockley's Without" was left unchanged because... I dunno. "The Without" does not have the same ring?

People, don’t try and make sense of it.

wivanoffwrote:

So, "Shockley's Ceiling" at the Gunks was changed to "The Ceiling" because William Shockley's views on eugenics were offensive. (I still call it "Shockley's Ceiling")
But, the route next door, "Shockley's Without" was left unchanged because... I dunno. "The Without" does not have the same ring?

I kind of like plain "Without." But to be more explicit it could be called "The Ceiling Without a Ceiling."

wivanoffwrote:

So, "Shockley's Ceiling" at the Gunks was changed to "The Ceiling" because William Shockley's views on eugenics were offensive. (I still call it "Shockley's Ceiling")
But, the route next door, "Shockley's Without" was left unchanged because... I dunno. "The Without" does not have the same ring?

I find this shocking. Have they cancelled the VW beetle yet? I hear the guy who commissioned it had some whackadoodle ideas about eugenics too

John Clarkwrote:

I find this shocking. Have they cancelled the VW beetle yet? I hear the guy who commissioned it had some whackadoodle ideas about eugenics too

“The Wolfsburg-based automaker discontinued the Beetle in 2019 and there hasn't been a direct successor so far.”   I think they actually redacted the beetle before Shockleys. the V stands for “people” the W for “woke”. 

wivanoffwrote:

So, "Shockley's Ceiling" at the Gunks was changed to "The Ceiling" because William Shockley's views on eugenics were offensive. (I still call it "Shockley's Ceiling")
But, the route next door, "Shockley's Without" was left unchanged because... I dunno. "The Without" does not have the same ring?

At least on gunks apps, it has been changed to “the ceiling without,” and the 5.7 variation is now called “the ceiling within one.”