What bolt to use with metolius rap hanger

I found hangers off eBay and a couple of these were included. I am aware they are not stainless, so I figured a zinc plated bolt would be best for them? I not sure I’ll even use them considering their infamy. Could they work as a backup for another bolt in a vertical setup? Don’t really know if I should even use it, but it seems like it will take forever to corrode to an unsafe level because it’s so thick.

How they corrode probably depends a lot on the environment they’re installed in, but in Central Oregon, (semi arid, frozen winters, hot summers) they tend to be fine 30-40 years later. The bolts not so much though which is probably the main reason not to use them.  Also they’re just not that functional and are generally inconvenient in most applications. 

Alex Moranowrote:

I found hangers off eBay and a couple of these were included. I am aware they are not stainless, so I figured a zinc plated bolt would be best for them? I not sure I’ll even use them considering their infamy. Could they work as a backup for another bolt in a vertical setup? Don’t really know if I should even use it, but it seems like it will take forever to corrode to an unsafe level because it’s so thick.

Thats a metolius Hanger so it is probably stainless steel. 

Matt Kingwrote:

Thats a metolius Hanger so it is probably stainless steel. 

Nope. The rap hangers were only ever made in plated steel. I have an email from Metolius stating that explicitly.

As for what to do with them, you could use them for an anchor board for teaching, or I know LCOs often collect older (and current) hardware to build example anchors for display and education. As Max said above, while the hanger might be fine for 30-40 years in the right environment and the right bolt, they're kinda bulky and not super user friendly. Basically there's better options on the market for actual climbing use, and given how inexpensive hangers are in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't seem worth it to me to force an application for the Rap Hangers. 

If I were in your shoes and had gotten them as part of a bulk deal, I'd be inclined to just relegate them to educational use on the ground or use them around the house for art projects, clothes lines, hanging things in the garage, etc.

Matt Zwrote:

Nope. The rap hangers were only ever made in plated steel. I have an email from Metolius stating that explicitly.

As for what to do with them, you could use them for an anchor board for teaching, or I know LCOs often collect older (and current) hardware to build example anchors for display and education. As Max said above, while the hanger is likely fine for 30-40 years in the right environment and the right bolt, they're kinda bulky and not super user friendly. Basically there's better options on the market for actual climbing use, and given how inexpensive hangers are in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't seem worth it to me to force an application for the Rap Hangers. 

If I were in your shoes and had gotten them as part of a bulk deal, I'd be inclined to just relegate them to educational use on the ground or use them around the house for art projects, clothes lines, hanging things in the garage, etc.

Thanks!!! Thats interesting and good to know... If thats the case then use plated steel. 

If I were in your shoes and had gotten them as part of a bulk deal, I'd be inclined to just relegate them to educational use on the ground or use them around the house for art projects, clothes lines, hanging things in the garage, etc.

Great for mounting on a wall and using for PT bands - feed a stretchy band straight through them with no worries about it catching on a carabiner gate (or a burr on the carabiner).

I think there's a few places selling metolius rap hangers as stainless. Backcountry among them. 

Idk metolius has a few products vaguely listed as stainless that are not truly stainless. Their 3/8 quick links are often listed as a SS product, but I'm quite certain are plated steel. 

Kyle Elliottwrote:

I think there's a few places selling metolius rap hangers as stainless. Backcountry among them. 

All I could find were their Enviro Hangers (which are ss). I'm curious now, can you post a link?

nbrownwrote:

All I could find were their Enviro Hangers (which are ss). I'm curious now, can you post a link?

That may be what I saw. Probably thrown off by both are powder coated. 

You could use it for temporary anchors with a 3/8" concrete screw

Alex Moranowrote:

I found hangers off eBay and a couple of these were included. I am aware they are not stainless, so I figured a zinc plated bolt would be best for them? I not sure I’ll even use them considering their infamy. Could they work as a backup for another bolt in a vertical setup? Don’t really know if I should even use it, but it seems like it will take forever to corrode to an unsafe level because it’s so thick.

My opinion, use a Stainless Steel wedge anchor with that Metolius rappel hanger and they're fine. As noted, that is powder coated steel, but use a stainless wedge anchor (bolt) with it. Joe Healy replaced a crapload of the old anchors at Beacon Rock, a wet, but not sea environment, over 20 years back and every one of them is in use and holding up great to this day. 

BTW, Metolius doesn't mismark product. If you are reading something at backcountry that claims something is stainless but it is steel, post the link. It happens. Fixe use to use a stainless picture for what they call a PS hanger. PS meaning plated steel. It's damned lazy on their part and can catch you unawares.