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New and Experienced climbers over 50 #22
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Lori, about getting sick from the covid shots: most of my friends and family have gotten all 5 shots and I haven't heard of anyone having more than a day of adverse effects. My arm was very sore the night after my last shot, which I understand is a sign that the vacc was doing its thing. So that's my anecdotal bit of evidence. Edit to add: Do you have any idea where/how you could have picked up all those parasites? Way beyond my experience living in the middle class USA. |
wendy weisswrote: I totally agree that this is the norm. I also never had more than a day or two of achy. |
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Well no shots and no COVID for me. I’m the last man standing in my extended family who hasn’t had COVID. |
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Hi Lori. Yes, occasionally eat kangaroo. But really I eat what my wife eats and she won’t eat or cook ‘cute’ animals, so I mostly eat chicken. I’m not sure what you mean about the ‘cultured’ thing. Kangaroo isn’t ‘uncultured’ food, you’ll pay a LOT for kangaroo in a restaurant. Kangaroo is also a very ethical meat. No farming, no hormones, no trucking them about the country, no abattoir, just a .303 bullet to the head. Also a very lean meat. https://www.choice.com.au/food-and-drink/meat-fish-and-eggs/meat/articles/kangaroo-meat |
Carl Schneiderwrote: Noooo. We let all the kangaroos around here run wild and free. |
Lori Milaswrote: Kangaroo rats don't really count Lori. |
Jan Mcwrote: They are a bit small when it comes to eating too. I think Carl makes some excellent points about eating kangaroo. I haven’t consumed meat for more than 40 years, but think wild kangaroo is highly preferable to North American industry raised beef, pork and chicken, as far as health and the environment is concerned. |
Ward Smithwrote: Big kudos to you, Ward. That is not a small accomplishment. |
Lori Milaswrote: Ours run free as well. Until they don’t. Kangaroo jerky is nice. |
S. Neohwrote: Agree. I do know people who've had covid after 5 shots, but it's been mild. I've been a combination of careful and lucky so far, but expect that I'll get some strain of it eventually. I'm hoping that it will be just an uncomfortable week or so, and not the life-threatening illness that it was pre-vaccine. |
Carl Schneiderwrote: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/save-australias-ecosystem-ecologists-say-eat-kangaroos-180964846/ |
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I've always thought I had parasites living in me(which is fairly normal right?), I think the physical exertion in the great outdoors has always kept everything mostly in check. Definitely the worst times of my life have been compounded by not getting out enough when I was fully capable of doing so. Speaking of kangaroo, I wonder if it tastes at all like deer, rabbit or squirrel. Usually the vegetarian meat is all good but that theory changes a bit in the waters with fish, not many meat eating mammals are considered good eating. And the covid thing - Ward have you ever even tested to see if you have had it? I bet you have and it was gone before you even suspected having it, it would be hard to have avoided it at this point. |
Ward Smithwrote: Ward, bully for you…. most of us can’t live the lifestyle you do… you are fortunate to be able to limit your exposure to the “great unwashed…” most of us are forced by life to interact with people who are not as careful as you. if everyone I was forced to interact on a daily basis was as careful as you, I wouldn’t have bothered to vacinate. Unfortunately, it’s not the case. Nor is it the case for most of us. Most Of us have to/ are forced to closely interact with people. Many of them are careful, and many of them are not…. I took all shots, except for the last omicron one. After a summer of closely dealing with hundreds of people, I finally got Covid. After two crappy days, 3 flu-like days, I’m back to normal. I think it was the best course of action for me. I didn’t have the option of locking myself away from the outside world… ed “Jason P didn’t vaccinate…e ps. Cruel, yes, but…. |
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Todd - Clearly one key to your daughter's success is her chalkbag. |
Lori Milaswrote: |
Todd Berlier wrote: On a climbing note? Why are you talking about climbing? This is a climbing forum! |
ed esmondwrote: Well I’ve flown three times during the pandemic, so I haven’t exactly locked myself away. Steve and I are actually flying out to Arizona again on Friday so I will have another chance to catch it. I do wear an N 95 mask and hammer the zinc lozenges. |
 OK, time for a climbing story. This one is somewhat about the spiderweb of connections we make as time goes by. NAMES capitalized for fun! I mentioned that my year 70 goal was to climb with as many of my climbing partners as possible this year. MIKE B is someone I used to climb with in the Bay Area when we both lived there. He moved to NY a fairly long time ago but we exchanged pleasantries now and then. Then he moved to LA a couple of years ago, so we have gotten out a couple of times. He works a regular job and only has weekends to climb so I don’t see him that often. Anyway I texted him last week and asked if he could climb on the weekend. He said he’d love to do that but that DENISE D was flying in from Reno and DAN R was down from SF and that they were going to be climbing at Joshua Tree. DENISE and I have been partners for more than 30 years, she moved to Reno from the Bay area. I saw her recently when I was climbing in BISHOP with ANDY F, but we barely got to climb together since she partnered up with ANDY and I was mostly climbing with SKIP. DAN’s name rang a bell but I couldn’t place how I knew him. I made a plan to meet them for dinner Sunday night and to climb on Monday. They said, let’s meet at Nomad. I had an old #3 cam with a broken wire and BRANDT A had told me that they could do the repair. So I went in, and when I dropped the cam off the form said “allow 1-2 weeks”, so put BRANDT A’s name on the form after mine and the guy said “I know Brandt”. But of course! Later on, met my friends at Nomad - recognized DAN R’s face right away, but we still couldn’t remember how we were connected. Anyway, the repair guy started chatting with me. (I have that kind of grandmotherly energy that inspires people to talk to me. I have to put on headphones and pretend to sleep anytime I board an airplane.) I think he said his name was ANDY. For some reason he started talking about playing in a band with DONNY R. I’ve met DONNY R through BRANDT, so I said, tell him hello from PHYL. Then the others were still chit-chatting and gabbing about gear and routes so I started talking to a nice young woman behind the counter who said she was a guide. I forgot her name so I’ll call her SENECA R, since she just moved from Seneca Rocks. Anyway, on to climbing. Yes, there is actually some climbing in this story. The next day we did some fun routes. I put the draws up on: WILL IT OR WON’T IT (AKA SAND DONKEY) (A0- short person version, pinched the bolt to save my ankles) – fun climbing and well-protected WILL IT STICK – a bonus TR to the left KANSAS - another rather reach dependent crux which I managed without any shenanigans HIPPO PARADISE – short and well protected, felt easier than the 5.9 rating UNNAMED EASY CRACK – bonus TR off Hippo Paradise anchors MUMBLING BEE – 2 bolts and 1 purple Metolius in 70 feet. I got the rope up by starting left off the direct line to avoid the quite runout first bolt to start. Save the ankles part II. After, with TR in place, I was able to do a nice direttissima avoiding big features. EYES OF AMBER – with lots of wind and colder temps at this point we all TRed this route, but with the advantage of the TR, I also was able to forge a nice direttissima at a little harder grade. There were three of us and we all did different starting versions to this route, which was fun. Oh! Here’s another photo! 
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Sheesh, Phyl-- you still look like a teenager!!! |
Steve Williamswrote: Steve, thank you. Get your eyes checked soon. But you are in my spiderweb. Hugs, Phyl |
