overheard at the crag: post it

Got called a "bible-thumping white supremacist" last weekend by a pair of climbers, when a group of six of us left one rope up for TR for a total of 15 minutes unattended. they never asked about the climb, never expressed interest to climb it when our first party got on, nada - just straight to accusations and a really shitty attitude.

when i tried to explain that no one else had been at that wall in any of the last 4 days of weekend climbing, so yes we took a small liberty in leaving it up, i was told that i'm "fucking gaslighting!" 

also, apparently "i travel and climb all the time to crowded crags, this [leaving a toprope up] shit only ever happens in portland" - but i guess they've never had to actually ask to queue up for a climb at a crowded crag? weird.

absolutely bat-shit interaction; no one in our group of six could ever recall experiencing such out-of-nowhere aggression in decades of climbing. 

You should have told them "I own this crag, motherfucker."

J Pwrote:

Got called a "bible-thumping white supremacist" last weekend by a pair of climbers, when a group of six of us left one rope up for TR for a total of 15 minutes unattended. they never asked about the climb, never expressed interest to climb it when our first party got on, nada - just straight to accusations and a really shitty attitude.

when i tried to explain that no one else had been at that wall in any of the last 4 days of weekend climbing, so yes we took a small liberty in leaving it up, i was told that i'm "fucking gaslighting!" 

also, apparently "i travel and climb all the time to crowded crags, this [leaving a toprope up] shit only ever happens in portland" - but i guess they've never had to actually ask to queue up for a climb at a crowded crag? weird.

absolutely bat-shit interaction; no one in our group of six could ever recall experiencing such out-of-nowhere aggression in decades of climbing. 

That'll teach you 

Cherokee Nuneswrote:

You should have told them "I own this crag, motherfucker."

Oh should I run into them again, it’s not going to be pretty.

And yes, abandon moderation, I am going to hell but was already well on my way, so I’ll just keep going. 

J Pwrote:

Oh should I run into them again, it’s not going to be pretty.

And yes, abandon moderation, I am going to hell but was already well on my way, so I’ll just keep going. 

Since you're a Bible thumper, aren't you already saved?

good point, robert, shit, i should really pick a lane. as one of our crew joked with me that day, "which came first for you, the bible thumping or the white supremacy?" 

(btw, you still out in driftwood? my brother lived out there for a long while on cowpoke canyon rd) 

Edit: \/ \/ Mark, I hit my posting limit (taking that as a sign), but for the record, offered that as well - “fuck no we aren’t climbing on your gear” was their reply. Still, they couldn’t wait five minutes for me to climb it and clean… left as soon as I started climbing. Mauvais voyage, assholes!

In a related vein, does anyone disagree that a toprope with no owner in sight is free to climb? (For anyone willing to take the risk on the overall set up).   

Mark Pilatewrote:

In a related vein, does anyone disagree that a toprope with no owner in sight is free to climb? (For anyone willing to take the risk on the overall set up).   

You just pull the rope and climb. Thought that was obvious for everyone involved. I've left ropes hanging without pulling it, just from pure laziness, nobody in my groups top rope, and no one has ever gotten upset at it. Weird how fragile everyone is now. If youre standing under it and the rope's owner isn't sitting under it already, you're next in line before them anyways, so either pull it yourself or ask the owner to do it. 

Cherokee Nuneswrote:

You should have told them "I own this crag, motherfucker."

I would have just fired my crag gun. (In the air obviously) 

Mark Pilatewrote:

In a related vein, does anyone disagree that a toprope with no owner in sight is free to climb? (For anyone willing to take the risk on the overall set up).   

That's what we're supposed to do?? I been taking them home with me.

Mark Pilatewrote:

In a related vein, does anyone disagree that a toprope with no owner in sight is free to yank and put up your own rope.   

Ftfy 

J Pwrote:

(btw, you still out in driftwood? my brother lived out there for a long while on cowpoke canyon rd) 

Yup. I'm about 30 minutes from there, close to the Salt Lick.

JP - which route/crag was it?

And at the risk of getting this thread back on topic - I was once witness to a car overshooting the edge of the gravel parking lot and come barreling down the steep forested slope toward the climbing area for about 100 feet before slamming head on into a 80 foot evergreen tree. All 3 occupants seemed okay, though one suffered a concussion and was taken by ambulance to a hospital (no seatbelt). Quite a strange day at the crag - for the climbers and the tow truck driver. (French's Dome, for those that know it)

^ Mordor at ozone. 

It was at a gym in Florida, not a crag, but I refuse to give up my moment of glory.

“Yeah I’ve done a lot of crack climbing outdoors, and it’s a lot of fun, but I’m not really sure how you’re supposed to climb these indoor cracks”

Erik Strandwrote:

It was at a gym in Florida, not a crag, but I refuse to give up my moment of glory.

“Yeah I’ve done a lot of crack climbing outdoors, and it’s a lot of fun, but I’m not really sure how you’re supposed to climb these indoor cracks”

Gunite takes a lot more tape than fine grained basalt or granite.

Overheard at a top-down crag while on a neighboring route: 

Climber: “I’m stuck at this part! I might just ascend the rope” 

Belayer: “Ok, go for it!”

Climber: “I don’t know how” 

Dillon Smith wrote:

Am  Nice I’m t  we. E

Dillon Smith wrote:

Am  Nice I’m t  we. E

Um, maybe not post when you’re drunk?

Marc801 Cwrote:

Um, maybe not post when you’re drunk?

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