What in climbing are you a snob about?

Princess Puppy Lovrwrote:

I’m confused, when you fall you stare directly up the whole time every time? I’m saying you should orient your head so you can to have some perception of where the ground is. You don’t walk down stairs staring up?

I do not stare directly up, no. Nor do I turn my head away and/or stare at the ground consciously. Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying but I, along with most people, don’t have to consciously think about their head position while falling. When we fall, we adjust. To me, this isn’t something that needs to be addressed.

Example about 2:00 in. You see the subtle adjustment?

Yeah, I just don’t see your point. It’s hard for me to imagine someone not having some sense of where the pads/ground is. I guess I haven’t seen anybody who exhibits the behavior you’re talking about. The only bouldering injuries I have seen have not been due not knowing where the ground is. 

Connor Dobsonwrote:

You know there's other sport climbing closer than pinnacles that is arguably better and of the same distance that is also arguably better.

Tell me where (honest question).  I can’t stay I disagree about castle rock and I live in the Santa Cruz “mountains”.  

I’d rather drive an extra 1.5 hours and go to the valley than climb Pinnacles.  But I’ve never been to pinnacles so I’m mostly full of conjecture.

Also if you stay on highly trafficked routes than Pinns isn't that chossy, some people greatly exaggerate how bad the rock is. And on the adventurous routes the Pinnacles factor makes them extra adventure-y. A great place to climb a couple grades below your normal onsight grade and get the shit scared out of ya on some runout, memorable adventure, or to just stick to the crags with modern sport bolting and just enjoy sport climbing. It's also one of the most alien landscapes I've ever been to.

I for the life of me can't figure out why anyone hates Pinnacles, that place is fucking awesome. I can see how if you're not into adventure climbing then it doesn't have as much to offer, but I'm a pretty wussy climber that doesn't take a lot of risks and even I have a grand old time at Pinnacles. 

We need the new guidebook somethin pretty fierce though, the amount of new routes is well into the hundreds. Brad Young meticulously logs all of these on the Mud N Crud discussion board, but most people that climb at Pinnacles don't even know Mud N Crud exists, so the information isn't exactly getting out to the people. I'll be very excited when Brad's new book comes out. It'll be aaaaaaaaany decade now. I can feel it. 

Ricky Harlinewrote:

Also if you stay on highly trafficked routes than Pinns isn't that chossy, some people greatly exaggerate how bad the rock is. And on the adventurous routes the Pinnacles factor makes them extra adventure-y. A great place to climb a couple grades below your normal onsight grade and get the shit scared out of ya on some runout, memorable adventure, or to just stick to the crags with modern sport bolting and just enjoy sport climbing. It's also one of the most alien landscapes I've ever been to.

I for the life of me can't figure out why anyone hates Pinnacles, that place is fucking awesome. I can see how if you're not into adventure climbing then it doesn't have as much to offer, but I'm a pretty wussy climber that doesn't take a lot of risks and even I have a grand old time at Pinnacles. 

We need the new guidebook somethin pretty fierce though, the amount of new routes is well into the hundreds. Brad Young meticulously logs all of these on the Mud N Crud discussion board, but most people that climb at Pinnacles don't even know Mud N Crud exists, so the information isn't exactly getting out to the people. I'll be very excited when Brad's new book comes out. It'll be aaaaaaaaany decade now. I can feel it. 

If you haven't already, you should go on one of his meticulous logging adventures. Just not at Pinnacles, as that place sucks.

Aside: I've never actually been to Pinnacles.

I'm extremely snobby about partners and how ready you are to climb when you get to the crag. If you don't arrive on time and aren't ready to start climbing within 15 minutes, I'm not going to climb with you again. Don't come to the crag and try to have a 45 minute chat with me while you organize all your gear that you should have organized the night before.

Andrew Biermanwrote:

I'm extremely snobby about partners and how ready you are to climb when you get to the crag. If you don't arrive on time and aren't ready to start climbing within 15 minutes, I'm not going to climb with you again. Don't come to the crag and try to have a 45 minute chat with me while you organize all your gear that you should have organized the night before.

Lol!

How much are you paying at this job?

Andrew Biermanwrote:

I'm extremely snobby about partners and how ready you are to climb when you get to the crag. If you don't arrive on time and aren't ready to start climbing within 15 minutes, I'm not going to climb with you again. Don't come to the crag and try to have a 45 minute chat with me while you organize all your gear that you should have organized the night before.

Absolutely. I have limited time - I intend to squeeze every minute I can out of the day. We didn't drive 2 hours to have a picnic at the crag or to organize your gear in the parking lot. Motivated > not motivated.

Stepping on the rope. Get off of it.

Nathan Doylewrote:

If you haven't already, you should go on one of his meticulous logging adventures. Just not at Pinnacles, as that place sucks.

Aside: I've never actually been to Pinnacles.

Guess who's taking you to Pinnacles this year. You're going to love it. Unless you don't. In which case you won't. But you probably will. Definitely. Maybe. 

Ricky Harlinewrote:

Also if you stay on highly trafficked routes than Pinns isn't that chossy, some people greatly exaggerate how bad the rock is. And on the adventurous routes the Pinnacles factor makes them extra adventure-y. A great place to climb a couple grades below your normal onsight grade and get the shit scared out of ya on some runout, memorable adventure, or to just stick to the crags with modern sport bolting and just enjoy sport climbing. It's also one of the most alien landscapes I've ever been to.

I for the life of me can't figure out why anyone hates Pinnacles, that place is fucking awesome. I can see how if you're not into adventure climbing then it doesn't have as much to offer, but I'm a pretty wussy climber that doesn't take a lot of risks and even I have a grand old time at Pinnacles. 

We need the new guidebook somethin pretty fierce though, the amount of new routes is well into the hundreds. Brad Young meticulously logs all of these on the Mud N Crud discussion board, but most people that climb at Pinnacles don't even know Mud N Crud exists, so the information isn't exactly getting out to the people. I'll be very excited when Brad's new book comes out. It'll be aaaaaaaaany decade now. I can feel it. 

Fully down to try it out;  I've converted to Trad Dad so things a little more complex but I may go down this weekend.

I'm a snob about not having a second person belaying me with two additional hands so I have a total of three brake hands at all times.  

Andrew Biermanwrote:

... If you don't arrive on time and aren't ready to start climbing within 15 minutes, I'm not going to climb with you again. ...

Are you claiming that you can find two appropriately spaced trees with some shade and a nice view of the climbing ladies and string up the hammock in less than 15 min? That is impressive!

once I brought a hammock to a crag, but I was committed to taking a rest day and belaying friends. And... it was about 15 years ago before the annoying hammock posses became a thing. I guess you could say I'm a trend setter.

TBlomwrote:

once I brought a hammock to a crag, but I was committed to taking a rest day and belaying friends. And... it was about 15 years ago before the annoying hammock posses became a thing. I guess you could say I'm a trend setter.

let me guess. you also liked green day before they got popular... ;)

Noise, chatter, and efficiency.....I like to move quickly up routes, or from route to route,  keeping the talking to the bare minimum, 

Jay Crewwrote:

Noise, chatter, and efficiency.....I like to move quickly up routes, or from route to route,  keeping the talking to the bare minimum, 

Sounds like you have lots of fun at the crag.

Also this isn't really snobbery

Dan Dwrote:

 this isn't really snobbery

but I judge harshly those who are loud, use unnecessary commands, or just take half a day to complete a single pitch. 

My partners and I only employ a bare minimum of the gruff and terse Sardaukar battle language and hand signals while summiting as many low angle dummy domes as humanly possible. We come pre-rigged from the car with harnesses on, tied in with pre-flaked rope in the car we slept in the parking lot poised in go positions since the night before, approach-o-simuling to the base as soon as the first cock crows. Employing a system of intravenous lines, hydration packs, and catheter systems, we do not even pause for food or to attend to urination, only stopping to make mud falcons we promptly fling to the talus below. All other chuckling numbskulls fall beneath our blades.

OP: What in climbing are you a snob about?
Colonel Mustard: Yes.

The salty safe space that is this thread warms my heart.

Andrew Biermanwrote:

I'm extremely snobby about partners and how ready you are to climb when you get to the crag. If you don't arrive on time and aren't ready to start climbing within 15 minutes, I'm not going to climb with you again. Don't come to the crag and try to have a 45 minute chat with me while you organize all your gear that you should have organized the night before.

That's basically me as well. I'm an efficiency snob, I suppose. Especially if it's going to be a long day.