What in climbing are you a snob about?

knotcraft & general outdoors skills. i was shocked to find out just how many climbers don’t also have general survival skills 

Rpropswrote:

Carabiner? Is there even chalk in that bag or just some snacks your mom packed for you? Gtfo.

well, it looks like SOMEBODY isn't getting any of my chalk bag snacks...

your loss... https://dinosaurdracula.com/blog/shark-bites-fruit-snacks/

also, im telling my mom....

Eric Dwrote:

At what grade?  Take a look at people that climb hard and see how many have chalk bags swinging around on a biner.

I am a snob about dumb 3 bolt climbs that should never exist.  As a developer are you really contributing something to the greater good?  Or are you feeding your ego?

I redpointed my first 12a in 2002 and I've pretty much treaded water since then and through raising 3 kids. I returned to sport climbing when I put up a few 11d/12a routes last summer at a newly re-discovered crag. (You did ask, and I do have the time) I go back and forth between the carabiner and the clipping strap set-up as I have a few chalk bags at this point. I really have no preference other than the extra carabiner has apparently bailed me out at least twice (that I can remember).

Erroll Mwrote:

knotcraft & general outdoors skills. i was shocked to find out just how many climbers don’t also have general survival skills 

What kind of survival skills are you surprised climbers here don’t have? Genuinely curious as I’ve never found any situation where I’ve remotely needed the use of “survival skills” aside from maybe a very small amount of alpine route epics. 

Kevin DeWeese wrote:

Anyone that uses a quad. gtfo

Specially with 3 oval biners hanging from different strands, gates in, out, and opposed, with a reach to clip at the finish. 

And they say a sliding x produces a “clutching” effect.

Metolious loose chalk is garbage chalk. Not only do I refuse to use it, I look down on those who do.

Eric Dwrote:

I am a snob about dumb 3 bolt climbs that should never exist. 

I'd rather have that than some stupid high-ball that requires 18 pads.

Marc801 Cwrote:

I'd rather have that than some stupid high-ball that requires 18 pads.

Idk. I’ve climbed my fair share of routes where the first three bolts would hardly warrant 2-3 pads. Let alone a dozen and a half.

I’m more a snob about 3 bolt climbs because they always seem to be nails for the grade

Isaiah aka Zay Foulks wrote:

I've never been to Castle Rock State park (north of Santa Cruz), and I have every intention of never going there.

It's all bouldering and a few sport climbs that are like 12 feet tall.

Pinnacles is just as close, and Yosemite is like 4 hours away (and since I'm from the area, I can drive three hours, crash in a friends house, and take my sweet time getting up in the morning).

Fuck Castle Rock.

The bouldering at castle is great, sports climbing not so much. Just run a bunch of circuits. 

Go Back to Super Topowrote:

Idk. I’ve climbed my fair share of routes where the first three bolts would hardly warrant 2-3 pads. Let alone a dozen and a half.

Um, hyperbole.

I’m more a snob about 3 bolt climbs because they always seem to be nails for the grade

I don't understand....

Betamaxxing healthy body condies

& staying based 

bryanswrote:

My chalk bag is on a carabiner and twice I've used it to clip an anchor when I was out of draws.  Beat that. 

Your girlfriend says she doesn't like tying her hair back with your carabiner as much as my cord.

Austin Donisanwrote:

Mismatched racks. My brain can't handle Alien, Metolius, C3 colors.

Notched carabiners on anything but the rope side of a quickdraw.

Should probably add oz over hoodwires

Not Not MP Adminwrote:

What kind of survival skills are you surprised climbers here don’t have? Genuinely curious as I’ve never found any situation where I’ve remotely needed the use of “survival skills” aside from maybe a very small amount of alpine route epics. 

water management and water purification being one that stands out to me for climbers who otherwise don’t do backcountry hijinks. so, not alpinists—straight up climbers

i come from a river work background so i’m a snob (unintentionally) about freshwater issues generally but finding out during a recent WFA that it was common for climbers to “drink straight from the springs in the tetons” legitimately freaked me out

edit: it comes from care. i don’t want people dying from preventable diseases

Gates in.

Chalk bag on a biner.

1 or 2 draws casually left on the harness at the gym.  Better yet, a single cam.

Loud vocalizations on v3 

Just to irritate the snobs...

But I can't stand when people think the rest of the world needs to hear their soundtrack outside.

How people coil a rope.  If I see someone finish their butterfly coil with a couple loose wraps and a hap hazard bight pushed through the loop I question if I’ll climb with them again.  If I pickup the rope by one side of the butterfly and the coils  start to slide around, it’s confirmed that I’ll never climb with them again ;)

I think I started to get really snobbish about how ropes were coiled when I regularly had 10+ different ropes in my van.  I was a climbing guide in Yosemite and I was assigned 5 ropes for work and then had all of my different types of personal ropes.  So often a rope would go unused for weeks but I’d often have to unload the ropes from the van to get to other things. A shitty coil job would fall apart and create a mess.  

I’m also pretty snobbish about biners on gear routes and multi-pitch routes.  If your cams and draws have biners that weigh more than 22g (Camp Nano is the heaviest I’ll go) I’m definitely bringing my rack.  

I could definitely keep listing things but I don’t want to give off the impression that I’m a total snob (though I’m sure my girlfriend would attest to my snobbishness…)

“climbers“ who don’t climb slab, multi pitch, or trad.  

Mikey Schaeferwrote:

How people coil a rope.  If I see someone finish their butterfly coil with a couple loose wraps and a hap hazard bight pushed through the loop I question if I’ll climb with them again.  If I pickup the rope by one side of the butterfly and the coils  start to slide around, it’s confirmed that I’ll never climb with them again ;)

Do you coil from one end, both ends, or the middle?

Will Shawwrote:

Do you coil from one end, both ends, or the middle?

How ever he coils, I suspect he's a neck coiler. Most shorter people are.

M Awrote:

It's worse in every way. You can't move your bag mid climb, it hangs lower, it's connected by one point so it spins easier. And if you use cordalette as a belt you can use it to bail.

Cordalettes are way too heavy and impractical as belts. Chalk bag belts in general are annoying. Carabiners are also too heavy and make the chalk bag sit too low. Buy a chalk bag that fits your harness and use small cable ties to fix it to the rear gear loops, such that it sits higher higher up and level with the harness. Chalk bag is always in the same position that way.

Snob opinions: Climbing 5.12 sport is not impressive at all, and if you think it is you have no clue. Any half-way serious weekend warrior climbs this as a warm up. There's plenty of 50+ year olds who casually onsight these grades. Climbing 13b doesn't make you part of some exclusive club either.

Talking about "projects" that are 5.11 or below while hangboarding or other physical training also makes you sound like an idiot. Go climb more and improve your technique, because you suck at climbing. Unless you're fat, then you should probably also diet.