Chouinard Strikes Back
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Lol. This article would be like if in 25 years, Jim Titt took a stand against bolting. Id be interested to know if Chouinard had a buy back program for all the Pitons he sold. My guess is, no. |
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TLDR! |
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Okay boomer. |
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M Mwrote: The internet, broadcast television and the marketing-industrial complex all say you're welcome for ravaging your attention span with lowest-common-denominator high-fructose pandering over the last seventy years. Electronic panem et circenses to keep the masses in line. I shudder to think what the future for rational discourse holds when muthufuggaz who grew up on Tik Tok reach voting age. Salient, sassy quote from the article: Even some of the most celebrated free solos are performed after obsessive research, training and rehearsal on gear. For some, “clean” is distilling climbing down to a contest between the climber and the rock, the greatest challenges met by eliminating the unknown rather than embracing it. Exploration has been left by the wayside and with it the preeminence of the environments that define it. True adventures are not efficient. |
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I gave it a read. It would be a good read for any climber, a chance for some self-reflection. |
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Trad: apples Sport: oranges armchair billionaire musings lol |
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While Chouinard is quoted, the essay’s author writes about climbing like a 5.7 gumby. The points are outdated, shallow and oversimplified. |
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Drivel. |
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Sponsored by one of the biggest outdoor apparell retailers whose only real goal is to sell as much as possible created by a billionaire whose fortune was amassed by selling his piton company and churning out overpriced apparel to the masses. Talking about our impact? Thanks for the lecture |
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Patagonia has been at the forefront of attempting to do business in a more environmentally-friendly way. Of course they aren't perfect, but they appear to be trying harder than any other company I'm aware of. How is being cynical about their every action helping? |
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Let your conscience be free and send your vintage chouinard pitons to me…. |
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If they cared about their impact, would their clothes be made in China? |
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Matthew Jaggerswrote: I have oppposed bolting in the past and will in 25 years time if I live that long. |
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abandon moderation wrote: Thanks, I was hoping I could troll Tradi into a quick summary but this works! |
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Jim Tittwrote: Lots of crack dealers in the US oppose smoking crack. I get it. |
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Jim Tittwrote:
I have faith in you! |
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M Mwrote: This sums it up: "the 2020 Olympics...confirmed Chouinard’s verdict that sport climbing is merely that—a sport." |
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Here i am thinking it was going to be about the climbing industry needing to go green.... ironic that he made his fortunes selling gear and clothes that are made from petroleum.... and Patagonia still sells petroleum products. love the green washing of these companies |
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Patagonia also makes every single piece of uniform equipment for all special operations units in the United States military. They got a ton of hate for that recently for obvious reasons, so they created a sneaky company called Lost Arrow which now makes all the uniform equipment for special operations. It’s still Patagonia making everything but now they can be like “nooo that’s lost arrow! Peace and love!” |
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TLDR: large corporation tries to guilt trip you for going to the crag and proposes no real solution to the far from novel issues it presents |




