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But... he's a troll!

JonasMR · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 6
Granite Grantwrote:

What’s the LFT stand for?

"Let's fuckin takeit."

Shaniac · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 24
Granite Grantwrote:

What’s the LFT stand for?

Leave Faux Trace?  : - ) 

James Jen · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 115

I say return it.

Strong and healthy climbing communities are based on fairness, honesty, and comity.

The penalty for bad behavior on an online forum shouldn't be theft or forfeiture of gear in-real-life.

Rocrates · · The Forum · Joined Apr 2020 · Points: 15

Well, I guess you found my C3s.  PM me for my address. 

Spider Savage · · Los Angeles, ID · Joined May 2007 · Points: 540

Having recently done Jury Duty, I can't help but notice how similar this is.  People who pose questions to the jury of their peers on this forum.  It is a wonderful thing.  

With everyone trying to be funny and all.  Stupid questions and stupid answers.  This form of group-thought-process has a high entertainment value and a little bit of actual usefulness.

Please let us know what you actually do.

John Byrnes · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 392
Bill Schickwrote:

Are we talking a Lord Slime level of internet troll, or some lesser amateur?

This is not a troll, this is real.   And oh, by the way, Lord Slime doesn't troll, never has.   

John Byrnes · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 392
Daniel Chode Riderwrote:

(he won't, because this thread is fake and he never found any gear)

This thread is real.  So what does that make you, Daniel?  

John Byrnes · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 392
James Jenwrote:

I say return it.

Why?  

Strong and healthy climbing communities are based on fairness, honesty, and comity.

Ha ha!   That used to be the case, BITD, but one short look at the MP Forums should tell you that you're living in a dream.   Climbing has gone mainstream with all the bullshit that comes with that.

The penalty for bad behavior on an online forum shouldn't be theft or forfeiture of gear in-real-life.

Why not?  

And don't call me a thief!  I didn't steal anything.   Where's your "fairness, honesty, and comity", eh?  

PWZ · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 0
James Jenwrote:

The penalty for bad behavior on an online forum shouldn't be theft or forfeiture of gear in-real-life.

maybe it should be?

Parachute Adams · · At the end of the line · Joined Mar 2019 · Points: 0

John, how are you sure it's the same person? 

Daniel Chode Rider · · Truck, Wenatchee · Joined Sep 2020 · Points: 7,484
John Byrneswrote:

This thread is real.  So what does that make you, Daniel?  

Post who it is then.

I am a troll, in fact I thought you were talking about me but that's just my ego.

Jay Goodwin · · OR-NV-CA-ID-WY · Joined May 2016 · Points: 14
James Jenwrote:

The penalty for bad behavior on an online forum shouldn't be theft or forfeiture of gear in-real-life.

Finding gear that has been left/abandoned/fixed is not theft.

Finding a functional but lost item (e.g. a golf ball) is not theft.

Picking up litter is not theft.

Brendan A · · Golden · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 115

If you really wanna smite him you could mail it to me

Cherokee Nunes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2015 · Points: 0

The penalty for bad behavior on an online forum shouldn't be theft or forfeiture of gear in-real-life.

LOL! The hyperbole is strong in this one. 

WF WF51 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2020 · Points: 0

BITD - A typical cliche/slogan, i.e., appears to say a lot, means nothing, and isn't true.

And climbing has been mainstream forever.

Kevin Mokracek · · Burbank · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 378

Post a video of you scratching your nether regions with it and throw in a few stray pubes for good measure and send it back. 

James Jen · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Feb 2020 · Points: 115
Jay Goodwinwrote:

Finding gear that has been left/abandoned/fixed is not theft.

Finding a functional but lost item (e.g. a golf ball) is not theft.

Picking up litter is not theft.

Fun list! You know what else isn't theft?

  • Picking trash out of a garbage bin.
  • Fishing flotsam outside from the ocean.

Ultimately, irrelevant because none of these categories capture the circumstance of the gear recovery by the OP:

So I found a piece of gear at the base of a crag and it has the owner's name on it.  

Would it be theft if I took your double rack from the base of a crag? What if you inadvertently left it?

I don't think so. And neither is the instance of gear recovery by the OP.

Colonel Mustard · · Sacramento, CA · Joined Sep 2005 · Points: 1,257
JonasMRwrote:

I think it turns out it was the gear's fault all along. The "well known troll" was just forced into a life of trolling by this cursed cam. Now that OP has it, he has become the troll. 

Crazy. That would help explain my own online life. I think it must be the #3 Camalot I dropped 200’ and have kept climbing on for over a decade that has forced me into this Gollum-like existence.

Tim Stich · · Colorado Springs, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,516

Take pictures of the gear having nice lunches and dinners and post from another troll account, flaunting you possession of it and showing how it has a much better life now.

Dustin B · · Steamboat · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 1,335
John Byrneswrote:

So I found a piece of gear at the base of a crag and it has the owner's name on it.  Normally I would try to get anything I found back to its owner.   So I look up this person on MP and find out that he's a well-known troll!   

So, should I bother to return it, keep it, or toss it?

Why the forum thread, you know what you want/are going to do. Posting up seems kinda... trollish.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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