Why climb with a 70 meter in the Gunks?

SethGwrote:

The traditional rap goes off a tree to the left and doesn't interfere with the route at all.

But last time I was up there someone chopped the tat. If the tat is still gone then yes definitely walk off.

But if the tat is back on the same tree to the left I see no reason to chide people for rapping there. It doesn't interfere with Horseman at all.

I did mention blocking the route, but the big problem isn't blocking the route, it's blindly dropping a rope into the middle of the busiest part of the carriage road. I wasn't aware of the rap to the left, having only ever seen people rap (or TR!) in the worst possible location to the right, but if it's anywhere over that big roof, it's going to have the same problem.

If people are worried about walking off in the dark, the walkoff left to the end of the cliff avoids the 5.0 downsolo, and isn't really much longer.

why rappel it when you can just lower and then your second can TR.  no dropped rope and probably faster in the end which means you're actually blocking the route less.  

There are a few climbs that require a 70.  I use one but it can be annoying dealing with the extra rope.  On days I know what climbs I’m going to be on, I bring a 60.  When I’m trying out new ticks, I bring the 70.

there are no climbs @ the gunks that Require  70m rope...   usually only run into that at newer sport areas. 

That is correct.  I’m talking about the rappel.

Nikki Nevewrote:

That is correct.  I’m talking about the rappel.

I lead on two 60m half ropes at the Gunks. Never had a problem with rappels. 

wivanoffwrote:

I lead on two 60m half ropes at the Gunks. Never had a problem with rappels. 

Which is more bulk and time spent managing, a single 70 or two 60s?

40 years ago, before folks even had 60m cords, we were able to get kegs on and off the high e. ledge without a problem.

‘Nuff said.

oldfattradguuy kkwrote:

40 years ago, before folks even had 60m cords, we were able to get kegs on and off the high e. ledge without a problem.

‘Nuff said.

Before gluten made us all sick right?

not comperable unless you want to compare a single 120m rope to doubble 60m ropes..