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Stoney Point Wet Rock Warning

Phil A · · Vienna, AT · Joined Oct 2019 · Points: 405
O Qwrote:

yes

Ok, thanks for letting me know. Guess I'm not playing hooky from work after all...

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

It’s wide open now... Tuesday- see y’all later. 

Kristian Solem · · Monrovia, CA · Joined Apr 2004 · Points: 1,075

I can't help myself. Here's Keesee on top of trashcan rock in Josh, lord knows when. Guy's got cred...

Chris Owen · · Big Bear Lake · Joined Jan 2002 · Points: 12,101

Thanks Guy! There are lots of debates on FB about this. Some people seem offended when they are reminded that these climbs are a precious resource.

In that spirit I have added the wet rock warning to every Stoney Point area and route in MP, plus I've added WARNING on the front page concerning wet rock and to wait 7 days for the rock to fully dry.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

Kris.... I think that photo was taken about the time ropes were invented. 

Chris-  thanks for doing that. Most folks “get it” when I show them a flexible flake.

Not sure about the 7 day rule- it depends on the history of the rain. Last week it “rained” maybe... We get really heavy fog sometimes in the am and you might need to use your wipers when driving. This drys quickly if the sunshine is out.
This is different to the steady 36 hour drizzle/rain that soaks deeply into the stone. - that sort of rain is the killer and when it rains on and off for a few weeks we just call the place “closed”.
Lots of people love SP and that love shows- the place gets almost “trash free” and is becoming more graffiti free. 

Thanks to all. 

Gumby King · · The Gym · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 52
Guy Keeseewrote:

Not sure about the 7 day rule- it depends on the history of the rain. Last week it “rained” maybe... We get really heavy fog sometimes in the am and you might need to use your wipers when driving. This drys quickly if the sunshine is out.
This is different to the steady 36 hour drizzle/rain that soaks deeply into the stone. - that sort of rain is the killer and when it rains on and off for a few weeks we just call the place “closed”.
Lots of people love SP and that love shows- the place gets almost “trash free” and is becoming more graffiti free. 

Dumb question.  I heard a rumor (which I'll unintentionally paraphrase poorly) at Red Rock if the top X inches of the ground is wet then the rock isn't dry.

Could there be some sort of guidance for Stoney Point beyond wait X days?

Quinn Hatfield · · Los Angeles · Joined Oct 2018 · Points: 0

There is...

It’s something like- if it’s not “Dusty as Fuck” don’t climb..

Mike Stephan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 1,188
Gumby Kingwrote:

Dumb question.  I heard a rumor (which I'll unintentionally paraphrase poorly) at Red Rock if the top X inches of the ground is wet then the rock isn't dry.

Could there be some sort of guidance for Stoney Point beyond wait X days?

Some people will say that if the ground at SP is wet at all, then the rock is not ready to be climbed.  Trouble is, to figure out if the ground is wet, you'd need to drive out there.  I'd be willing to bet that not too many people are willing to drive out there, park, and hike to the boulders--easy as it is at SP--then immediately pack up because the ground is damp.  A simple number of days, though less accurate, is easier in practice.   

River Simard · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Jan 2020 · Points: 0

There's a little drizzle this morning at Stoney. It shouldn't take too long to dry but if there was anyone thinking about going out either today or in the next few days, I hope this message finds them well.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349
River Simardwrote:

There's a little drizzle this morning at Stoney. It shouldn't take too long to dry but if there was anyone thinking about going out either today or in the next few days, I hope this message finds them well.

Today 3-3-2021 it rained- for maybe 1 hour- not hard, the wind picked up and the sun is out.
Thursday it might be good in the afternoon.

Like I said before- the rain that soaks in is the steady 24-48 hour kind. A quick hose down is different.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

Thursday 3-4 ..... My friend who lives in Chatsworth says it rained hard Wednesday, big puddles, still some this AM. So probably best to stay away till Fri at a minimum. The sun is out and it’s getting hot.

I want to say something about Stoney rules.
Going back to Robbins, at least, we have customs we hope folks will understand.

You line up for problems- you get 3 tries, then you go to the back of the line. If you put a pad at the base- others get to use it for that problem- do not tell folks “don’t step on my pad”..... that’s pretty cheesy IMHO.

If you’re starting the down climb, and someone is doing a traverse below you- just wait a second till they are not below you.

Yelling “get the F outta my way you Fag” is not going to gain you any friends and an impromptu crowd of angry people might just give you a hard time.

At Stoney we are all about everybody, the climbing and the friends.

So please check the angry BS at home.

Going tonight to toss the Wamo around, get some gear back and drink a few cold ones.

Mike Stephan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 1,188

Thanks, Guy. And lest people get the wrong idea about this place, my experience has almost always been a positive one. Climbers have been generous with their pads, beta, and even beer and first aid. We do not tolerate aggro bs, full stop. Cheers. 

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

We were delivered a bunch of needed rain last night and today in Chatsworth and I imagine all of Southern California.

March showers bring Flowers 

Dan Nguyen · · San Francisco, CA · Joined Aug 2018 · Points: 15

First of all, this thread is amazing. Thank you for all the local support. Surely beats getting out to the crag only to go home because of conditions!

I see it rained yesterday. Looking at the weather and Saturday looks sunny which should help dry out the rock if there isn't any more rain. Can someone local update me if it stays dry today? If so, my partner and I would like to get a day in on Sunday.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

Dan... it’s been raining on and off all morning.

It won’t be dry enough.

If I was in Newport Beach I’d head to some Granite spots- Woodson, Mt Rebuidoux, Hemit or Victorville.
Went to the BMX/Horseman center last Sunday and it was nice.
At the end of the day we located the 100% manufactured “workout cave”. Fun steep “pockets” 

Fun stuff- sort of like 3 pigs on super steroids. 

Quinn Hatfield · · Los Angeles · Joined Oct 2018 · Points: 0

And some Art :) 

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

OK —- I know you need to .., but really 

Quinn Hatfield · · Los Angeles · Joined Oct 2018 · Points: 0

Gyms opened yesterday... maybe Stoney will get a little break 

Derek Miller · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2020 · Points: 0

Was this taken recently? If it doesn't rain, will it be alright to climb Stoney this weekend?

River Simard · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Jan 2020 · Points: 0
Derek Millerwrote:

Was this taken recently? If it doesn't rain, will it be alright to climb Stoney this weekend?

This was taken yesterday afternoon at Stoney

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Southern California
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