Mountain Project Acquired by onX

https://rockandice.com/climbing-news/mountain-project-acquired-by-onx/

We know Prith!

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/120129091/mountain-projects-next-chapter-comments

Keeping the desktop site as it exists and free is a huge potential data pool for powering a $15 per year app that would take you right to the base of any route you want.  Thus people who stare at phones full time will never get lost or be uncertain about what they are climbing.  Unless the phone battery dies.

If someone wanted to charge admission to this site, I would want a royalty for my contributions. 

From my brief perusal of onX's website, it looks like they are a technologically advanced GIS (geographic information systems) company that specializes in hunting-related services. They have the potential to incorporate huge advances to the maps that we use to access the crags, and to me that's exciting. They also have a reputation of contributing to habitat conservation initiatives. I view that as a positive as well. 

Climbers could learn a lot from hunters and anglers. These sportsmen and women went to congress and demanded to be taxed! This incredible act of stewardship was because they recognized that wildlife needed a revenue source, and this is where funding for almost all species in the U.S. comes from to this day. Imagine if the climbing community demanded that Congress implement a yearly fee to climb. Imagine what we could use those funds for. The number of climbing routes in my beloved western North Carolina has more than doubled in the past 10 years because the Carolina Climbers Coalition has purchased tons of incredible rock. Imagine what we could do with a consistent, dependable source of revenue. Parking lots, shitters that flushed, bolts, trails... the list goes on and on. Instead, we complain when there's no parking at our local crag. 

Use onx for hunting, hiking and work. Its a great app. Interested to see how they incorporate mountain project.

Brian Ewrote:

From my brief perusal of onX's website, it looks like they are a technologically advanced GIS (geographic information systems) company that specializes in hunting-related services. They have the potential to incorporate huge advances to the maps that we use to access the crags, and to me that's exciting. They also have a reputation of contributing to habitat conservation initiatives. I view that as a positive as well. 

Climbers could learn a lot from hunters and anglers. These sportsmen and women went to congress and demanded to be taxed! This incredible act of stewardship was because they recognized that wildlife needed a revenue source, and this is where funding for almost all species in the U.S. comes from to this day. Imagine if the climbing community demanded that Congress implement a yearly fee to climb. Imagine what we could use those funds for. The number of climbing routes in my beloved western North Carolina has more than doubled in the past 10 years because the Carolina Climbers Coalition has purchased tons of incredible rock. Imagine what we could do with a consistent, dependable source of revenue. Parking lots, shitters that flushed, bolts, trails... the list goes on and on. Instead, we complain when there's no parking at our local crag. 

Or you can just donate

Brian Ewrote:

From my brief perusal of onX's website, it looks like they are a technologically advanced GIS (geographic information systems) company that specializes in hunting-related services. They have the potential to incorporate huge advances to the maps that we use to access the crags, and to me that's exciting. 

I use OnX to search for boulders on BLM and park land, or to see if something is on private property or tribal land. It also has over lays to show you hiking and OHV trails for access. 

I like it a lot and am interested to see what happens with this acquisition. 

JJ Keller wrote:

The types of apps that onX offers are catered to GPS-dependent people who otherwise would not visit the remote places the apps guide them to.  Bringing onX into the world of climbing information will increase impacts to sensitive places and is against everyone’s best interest.

Protect wild places and public lands by opposing this ‘partnership’

You clearly don't know what OnX is, what it is used for, or who uses it. 

It's a hunting app. It's a satellite map just like the map on the MP app except instead of having GPS marked rocks it let's you add map layers that show you things like property lines. That way hunters know if the game they are pursuing is on hunting land, private property, BLM land, tribal land etc. But you're right, I'm sure hunters wouldn't otherwise be hunting in remote areas if it wasn't for that darn OnX app. 

It's not like it gives you step by step directions to what you are pursuing, whether that's wild game or a rock. It's a satellite map for christ sake, what are you afraid of? Change? Things you don't understand? Anything different than what you are used to? 

JJ Keller wrote:

The types of apps that onX offers are catered to GPS-dependent people who otherwise would not visit the remote places the apps guide them to.  Bringing onX into the world of climbing information will increase impacts to sensitive places and is against everyone’s best interest.

Protect wild places and public lands by opposing this ‘partnership’

Don't worry braj, I'll be tagging my remote alaskan FAs on it so that you can throw it into google maps and follow it to the top too

Jon Frisbywrote:

Or you can just donate

Yeah, and why do we need universal healthcare when we've already got gofundme?

Brian Ewrote:

From my brief perusal of onX's website, it looks like they are a technologically advanced GIS (geographic information systems) company that specializes in hunting-related services. They have the potential to incorporate huge advances to the maps that we use to access the crags, and to me that's exciting. They also have a reputation of contributing to habitat conservation initiatives. I view that as a positive as well. 

Climbers could learn a lot from hunters and anglers. These sportsmen and women went to congress and demanded to be taxed! This incredible act of stewardship was because they recognized that wildlife needed a revenue source, and this is where funding for almost all species in the U.S. comes from to this day. Imagine if the climbing community demanded that Congress implement a yearly fee to climb. Imagine what we could use those funds for. The number of climbing routes in my beloved western North Carolina has more than doubled in the past 10 years because the Carolina Climbers Coalition has purchased tons of incredible rock. Imagine what we could do with a consistent, dependable source of revenue. Parking lots, shitters that flushed, bolts, trails... the list goes on and on. Instead, we complain when there's no parking at our local crag. 

The better way would be to basically follow the same model. Add a small tax to climbing gear that would mostly go unnoticed by most climbers. But instead of the revenue going to government agencies, make it go to climbing non profits like the Access Fund. There would have to be some sort of governmental oversite or at least guidelines to keep just anybody from starting a nonprofit in order to collect money, however.

Jon Frisbywrote:

Or you can just donate

The access fund estimates less than 10% of climbers are members of their local climbing organization, the AAC or the access fund. 

They have or lease a fairly extensive database of parcels for the USA, likely from CoreLogic. 

Brian Ewrote:

The access fund estimates less than 10% of climbers are members of their local climbing organization, the AAC or the access fund. 

Depends on your definition of climber i guess