Totems are over priced

Change my mind 

Krimpit thee Frog here wrote:

Totems are priceless. /  low price of about $90 US

so which one is it pal. seems suspect

Quality post. I predict 3 pages

That being said, I’ve got all of mine at around $65 by waiting on deals, so pretty comparable to a c4.  

almostradwrote:

Change my mind 

Compared to the Pinky, Yes.

Compared to Hexs, No

B - Yeah but now you're mixing your apples and tangerines - a used and bent totem that's been aided on by chuffers shouldn't correlate to the price of a shiny C4

GK - cowbells are just for show these days anyway

almostradwrote:

B - Yeah but now you're mixing your apples and tangerines - a used and bent totem that's been aided on by chuffers shouldn't correlate to the price of a shiny C4

GK - cowbells are just for show these days anyway

You can find new ones for 20% off if you're patient. Retail is for suckers.

almostradwrote:

Change my mind 

Why would I? One less person to compete with when the blacks are in stock. Have fun with your cheaper and less versatile cams. 

Nah... keep your mind the way it is

If they were overpriced, there wouldn’t constantly be a shortage. If anything they are underpriced. 

They are so overpriced, anyone that has some should sell them. And use the proceeds to buy some more reasonably priced cams with money left over. Just let me know when you're selling.

The money I spent on all my totems was worth it just for how happy they made me. Was jumping and smiling all over the place. Got my money's worth before they even touched rock

Wait a minute... you just think they are over priced....how many sets do you own is the question?

Ok, here me out for a second: there are these two factors called “supply” and “demand...”

Totems are like $15 more than Camalots. It adds up but in the grand scheme of things the difference of price is negligible. Folks find them expensive because they bought a rack of camalots when they started out and a few years down the road, when the road when they learn about Totems, they balk at the cost of replacing most of their existing rack and since they aren't going to help them climb better they keep using their old gear.

You’re just lucky they let you buy them for any price, you heathen!

$30 more than UL Mastercams, but cheaper than the huge stuff I need for Voo sometimes so I dunno.  I won't be surprised if other manufactures come out with similar "stemless" cams after a while and push prices down after whatever patents Totem has expires.

I'm wondering how long they last compared to Mastercams and C4s - my black Totem is getting crunchy even after a cleaning, but the wires are fine.

Z4s are as functional at totems in all the Z4 sizes and are priced twenty bucks is less. 

Now, totems aren’t over priced for that they offer, it is just the other very similar cams are priced lower  

AKA totems are priced right but Z4s are more budget friendly  

Eliot Hackwrote:

Z4s are as functional at totems in all the Z4 sizes and are priced twenty bucks is less.

Z4's aren't even close to the holding power of a Totem. If there's a constriction, Z4's are fine, but if the placement is flaring at all, they are pretty awful. Totems stand alone, and im happy Totem the company doesn't ask for more for their unmatched tech. Prices will surely drop when the patents run out and every manufacturer switches to Direct Lobe Loading designs.

alpinist 47wrote:

Wait a minute... you just think they are over priced....how many sets do you own is the question?

I bought a blue a couple weeks ago off a dude here, and honestly I'm not that impressed. I've climbed on the black and blue with a buddy over the last year and sure, they have a better range on the lobes and place well, but the kool aid isn't working. I'll probably just sell it and get an offset MC. They rack pretty bulky compared to other cams too.

Let the bidding start at 80 bucks, handy, and a 6 pack of cold snacks

If you can find them in stock, buy them at whatever price.   Would you rather have a $50 #3 Camalot or a $150 #3 Totem?

As usual the solution to all financial problems is to work smarter, not harder, and make more money.   

(sheesh, whiney millenial trolls)

I just bought a second Yellow Totem for my rack for $71 at ALs.  Couldn't be happier.  They also had green, red and orange.  Using coupon code new20 and active junky adds another 7% cash back.  I always justify these purchases by saying, what if I was into golf.  Imagine all the golf balls, greens fees & cart rental I dont have to worry about.  Plus this stuff saves your life.  If you need to save some dough and climb on vintage hexes, good on ya.  Gear is part of the fun.