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Fabien M
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Apr 23, 2020
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Cannes
· Joined Dec 2019
· Points: 5
In the confinement period, and just for the fun of it, I would like to gather a serie of statements that are sure to start endless war between climbers. Below are some I thought of.
Always place the prussik above the rappel device Always place the prussik below the rappel device Climbing gyms are for noobs Totem makes bad cams A black Totem is useless Crack climbing is dumb Hexes are stupid A sling is as strong as a cordelette Tricams are the worse Black Diamond is the Walmart of climbing gear Climbing during the Covid pandemic is totally ok Climbing during the Covid pandemic should be punish by death Sport climbing is for pussies Trad climbers are not as good climbers as sport climbers Link cams are the best cams in the world Whipping shouldn't happened Clif bars taste like horse shit 2 nomics is all you need to do everything Approach shoes is a stupid/great idea You should climb multipitch with a pack on You should climb multipitch with no pack Alpinism and minimalism don't go/must go together You should never/always tied a knot at the ends of the rope when rappelling Grigri is the only belay device you should use
Enjoy And please, share more :)
DISCLAIMER: this is not a thread to start a fight but rather one to make fun of our endless (and sometimes useless) debates that are part of the climbing community but which are also part of what makes this community so great.
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Dylan Colon
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Apr 23, 2020
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Eugene, OR
· Joined Jun 2009
· Points: 501
How could you leave out:
Top roping is(n't) real climbing, and top rope sends (don't) count.
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Scott D
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Apr 23, 2020
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San Diego
· Joined Mar 2016
· Points: 0
If you knot dyneema you will die If you knot dyneema you will not die
Double/triple fishermen > euro death knot It's okay to tie in with a bowline Tricams are essential Grigri ___________________ (insert any word) Hexes are better than cams Cams are better than hexes
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Gumby King
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Apr 23, 2020
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The Gym
· Joined Jun 2016
· Points: 52
You forgot to add:
"Tradiban is the greatest!"
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Matt Maglin
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Apr 23, 2020
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Bremerton, WA
· Joined Feb 2019
· Points: 13
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Frank Stein
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Apr 23, 2020
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Picayune, MS
· Joined Feb 2012
· Points: 205
All of these are absolutely true. What is the controversy?
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Cory B
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Apr 23, 2020
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Fresno, CA
· Joined Feb 2015
· Points: 2,593
Dogs at the crag Babies at the crag Hammocks at the crag Bluetooth speakers at the crag what is a local? Covid-19 and climbing
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Jon Rust
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Apr 23, 2020
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Chesterbrook, PA
· Joined Aug 2017
· Points: 0
even people who love hexes know they're stupid
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mountainhick
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Apr 23, 2020
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Black Hawk, Franktown, CO
· Joined Mar 2009
· Points: 120
Sport climbing is neither. Bouldering isn't climbing Retrobolting routes is hunky dory for protecting those without the skills or gonads to lead them in original style Climbing should be made safe for all in all circumstances Free soloists are heros Free soloists are idiots contributing to other wannabee's demises People who are injured or die climbing should be respected vs shamed on public forums It is your responsibility to point out others potential mistakes or unsafe practices To be asked on a second date you should already know how to do everything Offwidths are hard and should be graded harder because I don't have the ability Grading should be adjusted for my ability level Tricams are essential Learning to lead trad with passive pro is necessary We hate old climbers We hate young noob climbers Throwing tantrums over one's climbing failures is cool Screaming to make the move is SO cool! Getting to the top is the goal! Hanging on pro is OK, you still sent the route dude A few microtakes are OK, you still sent the route dude If you watch someone or belay them on a route, you can't onsight it, you know too much There's no such thing as a second onsight My shoes are the best shoes My shoe rubber is the best rubber My beta is better than your beta These cams are better than those cams (or nuts or belay devices or ascenders or ice tools or clothes etc etc) ATCs are dangerous Hip belays are never appropriate Using a cordelette is stupid Using the rope to build and anchor is stupid PAS are stupid EDK is fine EDK will kill you Using a 10 year old fuzzed rope is OK/not OK You have a van, you're not a dirtbag Shame on you for your carbon footprint YGD, but COVID19 won't kill me PBR is great beer!
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Fabien M
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Apr 23, 2020
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Cannes
· Joined Dec 2019
· Points: 5
Forgot one I really like: "Chalk is aid"
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W K
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Apr 23, 2020
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2018
· Points: 167
gates out?? or GATES IN??
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Andrew Krajnik
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Apr 23, 2020
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Plainfield, IL
· Joined Jul 2016
· Points: 1,739
Gumby King wrote: You forgot to add:
"Tradiban is the greatest!" Too soon... or not soon enough.
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Patrik
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Apr 23, 2020
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Third rock from Sun
· Joined Jun 2010
· Points: 30
Downclimbing skills are ... Offset nuts are ... 5.9+ routes are ... Soft catch is ...
... needed/better/pain in the ass/impossible/over rated ...
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Zach Holt
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Apr 23, 2020
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Nov 2014
· Points: 275
I cleaned up that litter you left on your project.
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Lone Pine
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Apr 23, 2020
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined May 2014
· Points: 0
>Ground up bolted runout ascents are dumb/bold/dangerous/should be retrobolted >Rap bolting is for cowards >you have to hang your draws for it to count as a redpoint (on anything easier than 5.12.) Otherwise it is a pinkpoint
Edit to add: A while back I really got into it with a friend who thought I would perfectly acceptable to rap bolt at a crag that has been established (as far as I know) 100% ground up
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Andrew Miller
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Apr 23, 2020
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Knoxville, TN
· Joined Oct 2015
· Points: 726
@North Carolina:
- Rap Bolting
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Fabien M
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Apr 23, 2020
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Cannes
· Joined Dec 2019
· Points: 5
Yuri Rodea wrote: Any discussion on class, race,, or social demographics etc that climbing or outdoor sports deal with. I was thinking more about climbing specific topics, what you mentionned can create shit storms in most settings...
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W K
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Apr 23, 2020
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2018
· Points: 167
Artem Vasilyev wrote: Oh fuck here we go Gates in, obviously. gates in 4 lyfe
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Rock Climber
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Apr 23, 2020
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2015
· Points: 309
Literally anything right now ... climb less, type more
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Sawyer W
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Apr 23, 2020
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NH
· Joined May 2018
· Points: 0
Ska ggs wrote: Literally anything right now ... climb less, type more Hey man, I take exception to that! Climbers are the most easy going bunch around and this is the hill I choose to die on.
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Dylan Pike
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Apr 23, 2020
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Knoxville, TN
· Joined Sep 2013
· Points: 555
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