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What's the story with Gravity One gym in Broomfield?

Seriously Moderate Climber · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 0
Nick Niebuhr wrote: Vertical Solutions is building the wall which means it's about 120 grit sandpaper as far as I know. You'll wanna have good footwork

VS walls are the least-textured walls I've ever climbed on.  Nearly impossible to smear....which is good as it forces setters to set feet that make sense.

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,689
ErikaNW wrote: 
Well if you’re a founding member, you can starting MONDAY at 9am!!! We will be open to founding members only all week long from 9am – 10pm.

The wall builders are installing the last of the flooring now and need the weekend to wrap it up, but members interested in getting a sneak peek and knocking out toprope and/or lead belay tests can come in this weekend by appointment only and take their test. You’ll need to email climb@g1climbing.com and bring your own gear. This weekend is open to members only and is just to do belay tests. We’ll have slots from 9am-5pm but again, you must RSVP for a timeslot. Monday starting at 9am is open to climbing for founding members.

Regular Business will commence on Friday 2/21, when day passes, punch cards, and general public access will start.

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,689

The gym is now fully open and operational.  Hours are 6AM-10PM Mon-Fri and 8AM-8PM Sat/Sun.
The class schedule is here. (link)  And most classes are included in your entry fee or membership.
The walls are tall, the lead cave is hugely overhung, and at this point the gym is not at all crowded.

Brent Kelly · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 176
Tony B wrote:
The gym is now fully open and operational.  Hours are 6AM-10PM Mon-Fri and 8AM-8PM Sat/Sun.
The class schedule is here. (link)  And most classes are included in your entry fee or membership.
The walls are tall, the lead cave is hugely overhung, and at this point the gym is not at all crowded.

Looks so awesome! Congrats G1

John RB · · Boulder, CO · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 194

Does anyone know if I'm misunderstanding this?  An advertised benefit to buying a membership is that you get "guest passes."  This was a major selling point for me because my partner gives me his monthly guest pass at Earth Treks and I told him I'd return the favor at G1.

But after speaking with someone at G1 it seems the "guest pass" is only good if it's the visitor's first time to the gym.  This means it's really a "first timer" pass and a visitor gets one per lifetime.  

If this is correct, I don't see how it's a benefit to the member.  I've never heard of this before at any other gym I've ever joined, so I'm probably just not understanding the policy.  Does anyone know?

Dane B · · Chuff City · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 5
John RB wrote: Does anyone know if I'm misunderstanding this?  An advertised benefit to buying a membership is that you get "guest passes."  This was a major selling point for me because my partner gives me his monthly guest pass at Earth Treks and I told him I'd return the favor at G1.

But after speaking with someone at G1 it seems the "guest pass" is only good if it's the visitor's first time to the gym.  This means it's really a "first timer" pass and a visitor gets one per lifetime.  

If this is correct, I don't see how it's a benefit to the member.  I've never heard of this before at any other gym I've ever joined, so I'm probably just not understanding the policy.  Does anyone know?

I don't agree with it but that was the policy at Movement before it recently changed to not have the first time visitor restriction after the merger of ET, Planet Granite, and Movement gyms

Brent Kelly · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 176

@JohnRB - I’m not clued in on G1’s explicit policy, but based on the website stating “... new to G1” in the terms, that interpretation sounds accurate.

Philosophically, though:
I think it’s a benefit iff there’s no such “first time is free” offer *without* being a member’s guest.
If I recall correctly, this type of membership guest pass offer/terms/policy aligns with the guest pass policy at Movement & Earth Treks, no?
That being said, I’m currently in Seattle where Vertical World offers 1 free guest visit a month regardless of first time or not. It’s a model I really appreciate and find super rational: encourages membership growth and a fosters a welcoming community without leaving too much day pass $’s on the table. Definitely seems like a riskier model to make net positive for everyone, though.
Brent Kelly · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 176

Ah, so El Cap/Earth Treks is now offering/driving the “no restrictions” policy locally?

Neat!
John RB · · Boulder, CO · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 194

Thanks guys... I didn't realize this was a widespread policy in other gyms!  I climbed at Earth Treks for 2 years before recently joining G1.  They always had the "one guest per month, no restrictions" policy at Earth Treks for the time I was a member there.  Even when I was a member of City Rock (in 1990... one of the first gyms in the US), they allowed one guest per month, no restrictions.

Anyway, it's too bad I can't return my friend's favor at G1.  That really sucks. :(

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911

Do they check IDs? Last gym I went to didn't so the one time guest pass policy was hard to enforce.

Jim T · · Colorado · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 469
John RB wrote: Thanks guys... I didn't realize this was a widespread policy in other gyms!  I climbed at Earth Treks for 2 years before recently joining G1.  They always had the "one guest per month, no restrictions" policy at Earth Treks for the time I was a member there.  Even when I was a member of City Rock (in 1990... one of the first gyms in the US), they allowed one guest per month, no restrictions.

Anyway, it's too bad I can't return my friend's favor at G1.  That really sucks. :(

I thought ET (and now Movement too) is 4 guest passes per year.  Did it change to 1 per month? 

Free guest passes seem generous in any amount.
Gotta love Colonel Jessup.;)
Bob Doyle · · Cleveland · Joined Aug 2019 · Points: 0
John RB wrote: Does anyone know if I'm misunderstanding this?  An advertised benefit to buying a membership is that you get "guest passes."  This was a major selling point for me because my partner gives me his monthly guest pass at Earth Treks and I told him I'd return the favor at G1.

But after speaking with someone at G1 it seems the "guest pass" is only good if it's the visitor's first time to the gym.  This means it's really a "first timer" pass and a visitor gets one per lifetime.  

If this is correct, I don't see how it's a benefit to the member.  I've never heard of this before at any other gym I've ever joined, so I'm probably just not understanding the policy.  Does anyone know?

EVO in Louisville has the same policy and I agree that it is ass. I’m sure they would do the same for someone who walks in off the street and wants to try out the gym. So really there is no benefit there at all. 

Bob Doyle · · Cleveland · Joined Aug 2019 · Points: 0

If I go over to either gym right now, off the street, and tell them “i’m thinking about joining, can I try it out today?” I guarantee they would let me. 

John RB · · Boulder, CO · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 194
Bob Doyle wrote:

EVO in Louisville has the same policy and I agree that it is ass. I’m sure they would do the same for someone who walks in off the street and wants to try out the gym. So really there is no benefit there at all. 

Right, so it's a benefit to the first-timer and not a benefit to the member at all.

Also, replying to another post above, I may be wrong about "1 guest per month" at El Cap/Movement/Earth Treks.  I can ask someone what it is, but I'm not a member there anymore.  My buddy has a joint membership with his gf, so they may get more than a single person would get?!

Magpie79 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2011 · Points: 0
M Mobes wrote: Do they check IDs? Last gym I went to didn't so the one time guest pass policy was hard to enforce.

Most, if not all, gyms have an electronic waiver that you have to fill out, so if someone has an existing waiver, they have obviously been to the gym. Even pre-electronic waivers might be tracked, or at least be in a file.


I suppose you could fill out a fake name and address each time, but keeping track of the fake entries would take more mental energy than it is worth. 
Long Ranger · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 669

Movement's guest policy WAS one guest/month, provided the guest had never been to Movement.

It's now 6 guest passes/year, with no other restrictions.

John RB · · Boulder, CO · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 194
Long Ranger wrote: Movement's guest policy WAS one guest/month, provided the guest had never been to Movement.

It's now 6 guest passes/year, with no other restrictions.

Thanks for clarifying Long Ranger!

I emailed G1 and their policy is "up to 5 guests at a time, but for each guest it must be their first visit to the gym."

Anyway, I guess I'm buying punch passes for my friend (after his first visit).

Dick Bob · · Boulder, CO · Joined Dec 2006 · Points: 60

Climbed there last Friday. Great gym. Had a ton of fun. Friendly staff who gave me zero pressure to join or do a belay test and I appreciated that because i'm an outdoor kinda guy. I left bleeding and couldn't raise my arms above my head. I did every problem under V4 and every single one of them were thought out, flowed as smooth as water and felt right to me.

It’s business. You’re a paying member and you get a guess pass to bring a friend in to try it out. Cool. Makes sense. After that they pay.

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,689
Bob Doyle wrote: If I go over to either gym right now, off the street, and tell them “i’m thinking about joining, can I try it out today?” I guarantee they would let me. 

Or maybe you are just wrong.
"First time in" pass = $10.  It is an actual policy at Movement.
https://movementgyms.com/boulder/membership-and-pass-info/

Not sure what they'd tell you at G1.  You'd have to go try it.
My guess is that they'd suggest that you to politely ask a member to bring you in.  That is what I would do if I were at the desk and you were asking politely.

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
Magpie79 wrote:

Most, if not all, gyms have an electronic waiver that you have to fill out, so if someone has an existing waiver, they have obviously been to the gym. Even pre-electronic waivers might be tracked, or at least be in a file.


I suppose you could fill out a fake name and address each time, but keeping track of the fake entries would take more mental energy than it is worth. 

Half the fun is filling out the waiver. 

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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