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Sam Skovgaard
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Dec 30, 2019
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Port Angeles, WA
· Joined Oct 2017
· Points: 208
Does anyone have their second carry a mini hammer (maybe like a 2oz size) to clean nuts with? I'm imagining a mini cleaning setup I could give a newbie trad follower consisting of a shoulder length sling with a tethered nut tool and tethered small hammer, maybe with a shortened handle. Rather than clip cleaned gear to their harness, they could clip it to the sling, speeding transitions (leading in blocks scenario)
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K Weber
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Dec 30, 2019
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2011
· Points: 15
It's a nut tool with a tap with a biner if needed.
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Muscrat
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Dec 30, 2019
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Oct 2011
· Points: 3,625
#10 hex. Works like magic in conjunction with your nut tool. And hey, you might even place it!
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chris p
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Dec 30, 2019
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Meriden, CT
· Joined Oct 2018
· Points: 556
How often have you needed a hammer for cleaning gear?
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Mark Pilate
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Dec 30, 2019
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MN
· Joined Jun 2013
· Points: 25
K Weber wrote: It's a nut tool with a tap with a biner if needed. ^^ And if you need extra oomph consider a steel oval for the biner. An actual Hammer seems way superfluous, no matter how small.
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Thomas Gilmore
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Dec 30, 2019
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Where the climate suits my…
· Joined Feb 2014
· Points: 1,060
Grigri, ATC, big stopper, #3, loose rock on route, or if you really want to carry a tool; 6" adjustable wrench so you can tighten bolts as well along the way.
There's a nut tool out there with a spring load slide hammer built into it. No idea how to get one though...
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M Mobley
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Dec 30, 2019
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Bar Harbor, ME
· Joined Mar 2006
· Points: 911
Its hard to tap shit out with these lightweight micro no hook biners. An old oval? Easy peasy.
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rob bauer
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Dec 30, 2019
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Nederland, CO
· Joined Dec 2004
· Points: 4,005
Yes. Forrest Mountaineering used to make a combined nut pick/light hammer (Bam Nut Tool) for just that reason. My buddy used to free more stuck Friends with that thing to the point he would just give you the booty. (Edit: Yeah, he carried a second nutpick.)
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Mark Pilate
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Dec 30, 2019
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MN
· Joined Jun 2013
· Points: 25
rob bauer wrote:Forrest Mountaineering used to make a combined nut pick/light hammer (Chock Tocker?) for just that reason.... Ok, just curious. If the nut pick and hammer are combined, what are you hammering with it?
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kgray
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Dec 30, 2019
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Big Square State
· Joined May 2014
· Points: 0
been done... However, having used this very tool in the past, you have to have a second nut tool to hammer on. Usually not worth it, however, it was useful for tapping on everyday fixed pins to assess their pucker factor.
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Bill Lawry
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Dec 30, 2019
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Albuquerque, NM
· Joined Apr 2006
· Points: 1,821
Sam Skovgaard wrote: Does anyone have their second carry a mini hammer (maybe like a 2oz size) to clean nuts with? Never seen anyone carry a dedicated hammer for nut removal. I typically use the ‘heel’ of my hand on the end of the placed nut tool. But sometimes that is too painful with smaller hands. A big fat biner is usually the next choice. That and leaders usually get better with mileage at not placing / setting nuts that are hard to remove.
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Marc H
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Dec 30, 2019
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Longmont, CO
· Joined May 2007
· Points: 265
How hard are you setting your nuts??
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Matt Wetmore
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Dec 30, 2019
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Traveling
· Joined May 2017
· Points: 565
Andy K talks about carrying a hammer around to booty stuck gear on basically all of his aid ascents, clean or not.
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Petsfed 00
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Dec 30, 2019
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Snohomish, WA
· Joined Mar 2002
· Points: 989
Muscrat wrote: #10 hex. Works like magic in conjunction with your nut tool. And hey, you might even place it! I use a #9 because its also perfectly sized as a backup rappel device, and usable as bail gear
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Spider Savage
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Dec 30, 2019
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Los Angeles, ID
· Joined May 2007
· Points: 540
A small hammer can be nice but almost entirely unnecessary. "If it went in, it can come out the same way." Using this consideration I have been able to remove any nut or protection device that some else got stuck.
Exception: If you place a chock/stopper in the cool shade, then the sun moves into position to hit the rock for several minutes causing it to expand, you won't be getting that piece out again until it cools off.
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csproul
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Dec 30, 2019
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Pittsboro...sort of, NC
· Joined Dec 2009
· Points: 330
I have taken a small ball-peen hammer when aid climbing.
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Fail Falling
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Dec 30, 2019
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@failfalling - Oakland, Ca
· Joined Jan 2007
· Points: 1,043
csproul wrote: I have taken a small ball-peen hammer when aid climbing. I do this in clean routes. Small ball peen hammer with a hole drilled through the handle for cord.
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beensandbagged
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Dec 30, 2019
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smallest state
· Joined Oct 2013
· Points: 0
Sam Skovgaard wrote: Does anyone have their second carry a mini hammer (maybe like a 2oz size) to clean nuts with? I'm imagining a mini cleaning setup I could give a newbie trad follower consisting of a shoulder length sling with a tethered nut tool and tethered small hammer, maybe with a shortened handle. Rather than clip cleaned gear to their harness, they could clip it to the sling, speeding transitions (leading in blocks scenario) I wonder about the term "have your second" is this something you can dictate? or are you considering it as a requirement for people you climb with? Will you provide it?
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Marc801 C
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Dec 30, 2019
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Sandy, Utah
· Joined Feb 2014
· Points: 65
kgray wrote: been done...
However, having used this very tool in the past, you have to have a second nut tool to hammer on. Usually not worth it, however, it was useful for tapping on everyday fixed pins to assess their pucker factor. It was made primarily for assessing fixed pins or setting a marginal nut, not for nut removal.
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Clint Cummins
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Dec 31, 2019
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Palo Alto, CA
· Joined Jan 2007
· Points: 1,738
I use the side of a big cam to tap on the bottom of the nut pick, if necessary. Or the axle plate on a camalot.
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Sam Skovgaard
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Dec 31, 2019
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Port Angeles, WA
· Joined Oct 2017
· Points: 208
beensandbagged wrote: I wonder about the term "have your second" is this something you can dictate? or are you considering it as a requirement for people you climb with? Will you provide it? Yeah, I sometimes trad climb with sport climbers who don't even own a nut tool (and, as you would expect, aren't very adept at cleaning gear). In such a situation, I would just be able to hand them the hammer and nut tool pre-attached to a shoulder sling. Basically it would be a pre assembled "cleaners rack."
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